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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 26, 2015 at 9:04 pm
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(March 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm)Alex K Wrote: I can't really make sense of that. What are the signs in the soul and the spiritual horizons and how do they prove anything?
I'll make a post about that tomorrow.
(March 26, 2015 at 9:03 pm)professor Wrote: I understand your concepts.
Why is the Koran totally different than the Bible which preceded it by up to thousands of years?
I know Christians read some verses selectively while ignoring others. There are some parts of the Bible that agrees with the Quran and other parts that oppose it, because, from my understanding, it's been corrupted and is not the actually full teachings of the Prophets.
Cor. 6:9, Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
If unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God, that leaves only the righteous.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 26, 2015 at 9:54 pm
So you are saying, the many places in the Bible that say, all have sinned, there are none righteous- no not one, are wrong?
So the wrongs that are done by people are just glossed over by God.
It seems Islam omits the Justice of God, which requires a price to be paid for wrong.
His standard is PERFECTION. A place no one with the blood of Adam has attained.
Who is going to pay the debt of wrong for the Muslim?
Only someone perfect can pay it.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 26, 2015 at 10:14 pm
I believe most people are good people that God appreciates and loves, and that includes most Atheists. I am not of the opinion that God only accepts perfection but that he accepts various degrees of goodness.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 26, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 27, 2015 at 4:29 am
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Pretty sure Allah does not like atheists.
Did you notice how he says about a hundred times in the Quran how non believers will face a fiery doom?
Christianity: "My religion is true, all others are false, non believers are going to hell. I got this amazing book which is the word of god. Only this book, others are fake."
Islam: "My religion is true, all others are false, non believers are going to hell. I got this amazing book which is the word of god. Only this book, others are fake."
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March 27, 2015 at 5:04 am
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You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 27, 2015 at 5:22 am
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I was just wondering one thing: why would a perfect, omnipotent god need servants? Is he also omnilazy or something?
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 27, 2015 at 8:02 am
Mystic, can you answer the question I posed about Justice?
Perfect justice demands a price to be paid for wrongs.
The Koran expresses the opposite of the Bible about this.
So you are saying the Bible is corrupted in all verses pointing out the unrighteousness that is pandemic in mankind?
Doesn't this strike you as odd?
You mentioned the Mahdi (the coming Muslim conqueror, whose sign is the sun rising in the west),
who in the Bible is the Antichrist.
Again, the Koran and the Bible are opposite.
The logo for BHO,(the US president) a Muslim, is the rising sun, who comes out of the West, and whose name means-
"he with us" in Farsi, is that antichrist- he will perish at the 2nd Coming.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 27, 2015 at 8:31 am
(March 27, 2015 at 8:02 am)professor Wrote: Again, the Koran and the Bible are opposite.
Yeah - to everything.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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