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What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
#21
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
Yeah... that didn't work out so well with Jephthah.

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#22
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
And there was that part where Yahweh tells his followers to sacrifice their first born sons to him. Exodus 13:2. Yahweh wasn't always against Human sacrifice.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#23
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
Yahweh was never against human sacrifice.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#24
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
That wafting smell of burning flesh unto his mighty nostrils must have been some kind of killer buzz !!!
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#25
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
Chad, God told them in the verse you show: "Consecrate to me..."
That word means to "Dedicate/ set apart".
It does not mean kill.
Actually, it is AGAIN another type and shadow of Christ.
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#26
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
This is what gets me about people who say the Canaanites were killed because they were sacrificing children. As if these people could read exodus, and think Yahweh was angered by the killing of children on principle. If the Canaans were killing children, and Yahweh was mad about it, it was likely more because they weren't shouting his name when they killed the children.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#27
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
Jesus is never mentioned in the OT.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#28
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
I really don't know or care. I am guessing that Christians would think they were saved anyways because Christ didn't show up till later.
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#29
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
(March 28, 2015 at 9:38 am)professor Wrote: OK Norm, Let's begin in the pre-flood world.
The fallen angels had bred with women given birth to the Nephelem, part human, part demonic.
The result was catastrophic evil and bloodshed, it was stated that the inclination of every heart was evil- and that- continually.

Noah, however was genetically uncorrupted, we do not know about his kids or their wives or his wife.
Something must have gotten thru because the tribes that occupied the land of Israel were described as "Vampire-like demons"
and, just as in the Flood, were wiped out by command of God (this time by Israel).
Satan's desire was to corrupt ALL of humanity, thus killing God's plan.

How do you know that? What is your source? Who is your authority on that?
I'll admit that I haven't read the whole bible, but I don't remember any of what you are talking about.

But still, why did god have to also kill every living thing on Earth -- including the animals? Why was the flood necessary? If god is omnipotent, why did he need such an imprecise solution? What about the people who were not inbred with the demons, like the tribes far away, who had not heard of the Jewish god?

(March 28, 2015 at 9:38 am)professor Wrote: The command to not kill is the command to not murder.
There is a difference between murder and execution.

Execution = killing someone
Murder = killing someone

Explain the difference, please.

Execution can be a legal action. So? You're using the excuse that it's fine because god did it?

Death penalty is still taking a life. The legal aspect doesn't change the fact that it is immoral.

(March 28, 2015 at 9:38 am)professor Wrote: God told Abraham to go and do what the heathen all around the world were doing.
Murdering their own kids.
Abraham said, "God will provide the sacrifice".

Were the heathens murdering their children? Can you state your source on that?

And assuming they were, how does it justify god telling Araham to do it? By that logic, god is no better than the alleged child-murdering heathens.

(March 28, 2015 at 9:38 am)professor Wrote: He knew the nature of God and trusted Him enough to go and begin to do what he knew God did not want.
SO that YOU would have a picture (a shadow and type) of what God would do in YOUR place by the sacrifice of Christ.

Except that god did not have to sacrifice his own son to himself to himself in order to forgive people. That's ridiculous, especially when you take his omnipotence into consideration.

(March 28, 2015 at 9:38 am)professor Wrote: Yes, God chose that one little tribe to provide a conduit for His God-man to come and take the punishment we all deserve-
to ransom us from our rebellious destiny.
Brilliant plan and execution.

But why this particular, illiterate, barbaric tribe? Why was he silent to the rest of the world?

And I do not deserve punishment. If anything, I deserve an apology for implying that I do. If god created me, is omnipotent and omniscient, then whatever I do that offends him is his own fault, not mine.


Moreover, you didn't answer my question. Can you point to an action done by god in the bible that was merciful, benevolent or loving?
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#30
RE: What Happened to the Non Jews Who Died Before Jesus Came?
Here's another humorous take on Abraham:

http://youtu.be/kQuyC3eLgVA
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