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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 3:40 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Here's the point, Christian "ideology" requires that you express love toward your fellow man.
Nicene Creed Wrote:I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.
Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.
And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
Wikipedia Wrote:Views on the importance of this creed
The view that the Nicene Creed can serve as a touchstone of true Christian faith is reflected in the name "symbol of faith", which was given to it in Greek and Latin, when in those languages the word "symbol" meant a "token for identification (by comparison with a counterpart)", and which continues in use even in languages in which "symbol" no longer has that meaning.
Nope, nothing in there about requiring that you love your fellow man. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. - John 13:35
Show me where the Nicene creed is recorded in the Bible...
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Back to the whole "Huggy has the REAL Christianity" bullshit again.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: State atheism IS an ideology.
You may want to open a book at some point in your life and educate yourself about the things you're blabbering about. First point of call would be the question if religion was actually forbidden or just not encouraged in european communist countries and the Soviet Union. I give you a clue, it was the latter and people weren't killed because of their religion. Not even Pol Pot killed to enforce atheism but because he wanted to be rid of the intelligencia, which he perceived as a threat.
Again, if you're playing stupid and fail to see the distinction between the underlying ideology of marxism (which was also perverted) and atheism which was encouraged but not enforced, I'm treating you as such. And please don't come up with that single quote by Karl Marx, which he made as a response to Hegl in 1844 and never put in any of his books.
That's it by the way, since it's often quoted wrongly.
Quote:"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"
So, there's context to it and not a call to aboliosh religion.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 4:00 pm
Plenty of nonbelievers also say we should do the same to Mosques and have targeted Moslems. Seems no one is liking them these days.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 4:08 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 4:00 pm)Polaris Wrote: Plenty of nonbelievers also say we should do the same to Mosques and have targeted Moslems. Seems no one is liking them these days.
Let me phrase it this way: Plenty of bigoted idiots say we should attack anyone for their religion or world view.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 4:23 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 3:40 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Nope, nothing in there about requiring that you love your fellow man. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. - John 13:35
Show me where the Nicene creed is recorded in the Bible...
Nope you are not supposed to love your fellow man only god. So fuck everyone and give god attention.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 3, 2015 at 4:49 pm
(April 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 3:40 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Nope, nothing in there about requiring that you love your fellow man. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. - John 13:35
Show me where the Nicene creed is recorded in the Bible...
In John 13:35 he is referring to the 12 disciples. Nice try quote mining your own holy book, but no dice.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 4, 2015 at 12:46 am
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(April 3, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 3:51 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. - John 13:35
Show me where the Nicene creed is recorded in the Bible...
In John 13:35 he is referring to the 12 disciples. Nice try quote mining your own holy book, but no dice.
Quote:Luke 6
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 4, 2015 at 1:30 am
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(April 4, 2015 at 12:46 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (April 3, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: In John 13:35 he is referring to the 12 disciples. Nice try quote mining your own holy book, but no dice.
Quote:Luke 6
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. John 2:15
Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world
Meaning DON'T LOVE ANYONE BUT GOD.
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RE: Sorta late news but here
April 4, 2015 at 11:22 am
(April 4, 2015 at 1:30 am)dyresand Wrote: John 2:15
Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world
Meaning DON'T LOVE ANYONE BUT GOD. That's not what that means at all, it's saying if you love the materiel things of this world, it is not an expression of the love of God, but selfishness.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worldly
Quote:worldly
3. devoted to, directed toward, or connected with the affairs, interests, or pleasures of this world.
How you show love for God is by keeping his commandments. He commanded his followers to "love their enemies", those that disobey this commandment are not his followers.
Quote:If ye love me, keep my commandments. - John 14:15
When I refer to atheists as a collective, you guys take offense to that, yet you do the exact same thing to Christians.
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