(April 2, 2015 at 1:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(April 2, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Spooky Wrote: Violence is the natural conclusion of religion.

Sad, while I don't agree with either religion, I appreciate history. That's a terrible waste.

(April 2, 2015 at 12:42 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Violence is the natural conclusion of all ideas that highlight differences.

Racial purity, social systems all these are fought over.
Religion seems to thrashing around at the moment.
I hope its death thows.

And where do you think all those bigoted things come from?

(April 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Here's the point, Christian "ideology" requires that you express love toward your fellow man.*

(April 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Here's the point, Christian "ideology" requires that you express love toward your fellow man.*

(April 3, 2015 at 1:40 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yeah but an atheist stole my bike yesterday.

(April 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Here's the point, Christian "ideology" requires that you express love toward your fellow man.

Nicene Creed Wrote:I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Wikipedia Wrote:Views on the importance of this creed

The view that the Nicene Creed can serve as a touchstone of true Christian faith is reflected in the name "symbol of faith", which was given to it in Greek and Latin, when in those languages the word "symbol" meant a "token for identification (by comparison with a counterpart)", and which continues in use even in languages in which "symbol" no longer has that meaning.