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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 5:21 am
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(June 1, 2015 at 4:52 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Are you an eye witness and what did Jehova do
no, but the friend who told him about it is a "no bullshit solid"!
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 5:26 am
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 3:53 pm
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 5:40 pm
Why don't Jehovahs Witnesses just keep to themselves?
They annoy the shit out of the people behind every door they knock on.
If they refrained from this annoying practice they would be more tolerated.
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 6:38 pm
(May 31, 2015 at 6:44 pm)nicanica123 Wrote: I am curious if anyone here has questions for me as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I appreciate that you already have a lot of questions to get to, nicanica, but I would like to ask four questions that are closely related.
Question 1:
Revelation 1:8 says:
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says Jehovah God, "the one who is, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty."
The one title, ‘The Alpha and the Omega’, refers to Jehovah God, correct?
Question 2:
Revelation 21:6-7 says:
"And he said to me, ‘They have come to pass! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To anyone thirsting I will give from the fountain of the water of life free. Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I shall be his God and he will be my son."
The two titles, 'The Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end’, refer to Jehovah God, correct?
Question 3:
Revelation 22:12-13 says:
“Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
The three titles, ‘the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the beginning and the end’ refer to Jehovah God, correct?
Question 4:
Revelation 1:17-18 says:
"And he laid his right hand upon me and said: ‘Do not be fearful. I am the First and the Last, and the living one; and I became dead, but, look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of Death and of Hades.”
If “the First and the Last” referred to Jehovah God in the verses above and this passage says that ‘the First and the last’ became dead”, my final question is:
"When did Jehovah God die?"
Jehovah God = Alpha and Omega = Beginning and End = First and Last = the Living One who “became dead” = Jesus who was crucified and resurrected
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 6:41 pm
Hey, Randy....you know I'm having a similar discussion with Nica? You and I...you might find this amusing, are both arguing -for- the trinity.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 6:51 pm
What is the JW standard excuse for the 1914 failed end of the world prediction of founder, Charles Taze Russell?
Do you believe that Jesus did return to Earth but is invisible, as Russell claimed, when his 1914 prediction failed?
If you do believe this, what does it feel like being so gullible?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 7:07 pm
(June 1, 2015 at 6:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hey, Randy....you know I'm having a similar discussion with Nica? You and I...you might find this amusing, are both arguing -for- the trinity.
That would be the orthodox view...are you referring to a different thread?
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Tag teamin arian heresy ftw! Yeah, diff thread.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 1, 2015 at 8:18 pm
(June 13, 2015 at 5:40 am)nicanica123 Wrote: (May 31, 2015 at 11:57 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Min's premise isn't that the load of crap dates from the 1880s; it's that it is a load of crap that was invented in that period. The TOE doesn't qualify on either count.
Either way, I wouldn't buy a load a crap if it was presented in the 21st century. If posters want to inject with ridicule they should expect it in return when deserved. Would you say that the question was asked in earnest anyway?
That's not for you or I to say; only Min can answer that. That said, Min and I have known each other for more years than either of us would care to admit, over several different fora. Based on that, my gut tells me the question was meant in as much earnestness as he treats the rest of the subject. From our perspective, you already have bought a load of crap, the vintage of which lending an illusion of mystique that it hasn't earned nor can sustain.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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