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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 3:02 pm
I don't think that is happening in Christian-majority countries, but you can find examples of Islamic groups burning Christian children or censoring of free speech for Christians in non-Christian countries or even "socialist" ones
I agree. I'm also not a big fan of the argument some atheists make that "atheists never kill in the name of atheism". This is simply untrue, as far as I know. Even today, in places like China and North Korea, atheists persecute, silence, oppress, and even kill religious people for their belief. Now don't get me wrong, Christians are persecuting a lot in America, but it's also untrue that atheists are always peaceful. We shouldn't focus so much on the things that Christians have done in the past such as the Crusades and the Inquisition, but rather we should show them places in the Bible where followers of the Abrahamic god oppressed and committed acts of genocide.
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Even if god did exist, he has yet to prove it, and our doubt is justified.
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm
(June 2, 2015 at 2:08 pm)PhilliptheTeenageAtheist Wrote: And what is this proof of which you speak, Drich?
God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm
(June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 2, 2015 at 2:08 pm)PhilliptheTeenageAtheist Wrote: And what is this proof of which you speak, Drich?
God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
good, good. now replace 'god' with 'evolution'
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:16 pm
(June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 2, 2015 at 2:08 pm)PhilliptheTeenageAtheist Wrote: And what is this proof of which you speak, Drich?
God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
I'm new around here...could someone let me know if Drich is being serious?
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:19 pm
(June 2, 2015 at 4:16 pm)PhilliptheTeenageAtheist Wrote: (June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Drich Wrote: God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
I'm new around here...could someone let me know if Drich is being serious?
I'm afraid so.
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:19 pm
The sad part is yes, he is. Don't bother talking to him about morality or god's nature. He literally thinks slavery is okay and that someone getting cancer can be 'a blessing from God'.
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:27 pm
Philliptheteenageatheist, Yes, Drich is serious. He loves claiming things to be fact, and not providing a shred of evidence for those claims.
I can FEEL god, I KNOW he exists. Just ask him to reveal himself to you. Fucking goofs..
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:29 pm
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(June 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Nuuupe. It's an interesting idea-putting the burden of proof on god himself-but within the constraints of logic, the person making the positive claim is the one with the burden of proof. It's just how it works. Do you remember the first time you used a GPS or a turn by turn service? Where was the 'proof' in that your garmin or tomtom worked? was it in the person making the claim, or was it in the following of said device to your first destination? "Proof" can work both ways but as you can plainly see is not limited to the person making the positive claim. Proof can also be found in the successful execution of said claim.
Quote:OTOH we have theits saying that you need to seek god to find evidence for him-as he 'reveals he truth' to you-and when you mention you have sought it, you are just told you didn't seek hard enough.
If God says the only way to find me is for the seeker to "A,B,C" do you think God can be found any other way? Until you follow your first turn by turn navigation trip, you only have the word of others that the turn by turn navigation works. The same is true with God. Until you do what He says do, the only confirmation you will get of God is through those who have "used the GPS" in the bible and found Him.
You are trying to put philosophical constraints on a principle that they do not fit on. There are many things in this world that we must experience for ourselves before we have 'proof' they exist.
Quote:The word 'morality' has little to no meaning at all. It tries to describe a bunch of vague ideas, but on its own has no substance. I would argue that moral codes within societies are not so much 'designed' and rather that they evolve on their own over time....
I do not disagree. Matter of fact that's kinda what I said minus the fact that many of you will point out that God had babies killed, and glance over the fact that we 'man' since 1980 have killed a billion plus.. Let say God had 10,000 or even 100,000 babies killed, or lets say a million babies were put to death by God... That doesn't even touch the 17 million killed this year by 'civilized' man.
http://www.numberofabortions.com/
Yet because the Jews sang a song about smashing their captors babies against the rocks... God is a monster. Yep no hypocrisy their.
Quote:This 'science is same as faith' thing is so tired and bullshit....
Not what I was saying sport. I was saying 'Science' is your god.
(June 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: (June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Drich Wrote: God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
good, good. now replace 'god' with 'evolution'
You are aware that a THEROY is not PROOF, right?
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:36 pm
There goes Drich on about 'it's just a theory' again~ 
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RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
June 2, 2015 at 4:37 pm
(June 2, 2015 at 4:16 pm)PhilliptheTeenageAtheist Wrote: (June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Drich Wrote: God of course... What better proof of God is there than God?
I'm new around here...could someone let me know if Drich is being serious?
What better proof of Phillip the teenage atheist than to have met Phillip in person?
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