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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 23, 2015 at 4:13 am
(June 22, 2015 at 10:55 pm)Chuck Wrote: I think if everyone were to be atheist, the world would be a more justifiably hopeful place.
Well, I'm sure we wouldn't be trying to fuck each other over on the pretext of whose imaginary friend is more offended.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 23, 2015 at 4:20 am
yes, and how many young sphincters will not be stretched as a result!
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 23, 2015 at 4:22 am
That may not necessarily follow, but I'm pretty sure the culprit wouldn't be hidden away at the expense of blaming the victim as a matter of policy.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 23, 2015 at 6:46 am
(This post was last modified: June 23, 2015 at 6:53 am by robvalue.)
Indeed, the idea of personal responsibility is something religion is good at perverting. It's messed up that you can go apologise to an uninvolved and likely imaginary third party and expect all is well. Instead, you should apologise to the parties you actually wronged, make it up to them where possible, accept any relevant consequences and learn from the experience. If the end of organised religion means stopping this ridiculous workaround for dealing with guilt then that would be a good thing.
Also, any kind of victim blaming, which appears all over the place in many religions, is absolutely sick and we would be better off without it.
More and more, the liberal end of theists seem to pay lip service to all the hardcore stuff their religion demands while pretty much ignoring it in practice. I'm all for this. Hopefully the hardcore ones will eventually be replaced by more and more liberals, at least in places where ruthless indoctrination and enforcement by violence aren't taking place.
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 24, 2015 at 11:39 pm
(June 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (June 21, 2015 at 4:37 am)Neimenovic Wrote: I don't care what you believe. Just leave the fucking kids alone.
Am I allowed to teach my kids Catholicism, as my parents taught me?
I would prefer you didn't, but I won't try to stop you.
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 24, 2015 at 11:41 pm
(June 24, 2015 at 11:39 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (June 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Am I allowed to teach my kids Catholicism, as my parents taught me?
I would prefer you didn't, but I won't try to stop you.
Fair enough.
May I ask why?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 24, 2015 at 11:53 pm
Life is difficult enough without the unsubstantiated bullshit religion hangs around your neck. A world without religion simply means there's one less thing to worry about.
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 24, 2015 at 11:55 pm
(June 24, 2015 at 11:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (June 24, 2015 at 11:39 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: I would prefer you didn't, but I won't try to stop you.
Fair enough.
May I ask why?
I think mindless obedience to anything is bad. In my experience, most Christians don't follow and obey the rules because they truly understand them. They do so out of blind obedience. I also think it's better to honestly and accurately explain both sides of the discussion and allow them to choose for themselves. I know that goes against Christian doctrine that children should be molded early, but if Christianity is the truth, it should be just as easy to convince a rational adult as it is to convince an irrational child and if it's not the truth, children shouldn't be indoctrinated into it.
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 25, 2015 at 12:22 am
(June 24, 2015 at 11:55 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (June 24, 2015 at 11:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Fair. nough.
May I ask why?
I think mindless obedience to anything is bad. In my experience, most Christians don't follow and obey the rules because they truly understand them. They do so out of blind obedience. I also think it's better to honestly and accurately explain both sides of the discussion and allow them to choose for themselves. I know that goes against Christian doctrine that children should be molded early, but if Christianity is the truth, it should be just as easy to convince a rational adult as it is to convince an irrational child and if it's not the truth, children shouldn't be indoctrinated into it.
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RE: If everyone was atheist
June 25, 2015 at 12:36 am
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deleted due to posting in the wrong thread :-)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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