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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 1:34 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 1:23 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Metis Wrote: *OCD Eyetwitch*
...Trinitarians believe that Yahweh, Jesus and the holy spirit are three "persona" of the one God. They are distinct, and yet they are one.
It's not meant to make any sense, it's a revealed mystery that is to be "accepted with faith". But you'll go to hell if you get it wrong so for most believers it's probably best they just nod smile and move on 
Sorry, I know I'm nitpicking...
Yeah, I am aware of the mental backflips they have to do to make sense of their own religion. Three gods, but one, but three.... but one.
I don't play those games. If you've god in three persons, blessed polytheism.
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 1:56 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Metis Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: So do you, jackass.
*OCD Eyetwitch*
...Trinitarians believe that Yahweh, Jesus and the holy spirit are three "persona" of the one God. They are distinct, and yet they are one.
It's not meant to make any sense, it's a revealed mystery that is to be "accepted with faith". But you'll go to hell if you get it wrong so for most believers it's probably best they just nod smile and move on
Sorry, I know I'm nitpicking...
1+1+1=1
It's even shitty as math.
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ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 4:07 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 12:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Just buy the t-shirt
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I would actually be afraid for my life if I tried to go out in public with that shirt on! Haha
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 4:09 pm
I wouldn't wear it. It's too childish. That's the kind of thing a 15 year old rebelling against his parents would wear.
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2015 at 4:29 pm by popsthebuilder.)
As stated by others; it seams that knowing the truth and expressing that it is something that it isn't is in dead the most unforgivable. It says that those won't even be seen by God in the end of there material existence. Let alone be weighed. Express pass to evil indeed. All other sins almost seam forgivable within true Faith and prior to death.
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 4:29 pm
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(June 28, 2015 at 4:24 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: As stated by others; it seams that knowing the truth and expressing that it is something that it isn't is in dead the most unforgivable. It says that those won't even be seen by God in the end of there material existence. Let alone be weighed. Express pass to evil indeed. All other sins almost seam forgivable within true Faith and prior to death.
Maybe Osiris steps in to do the weighing job. He weighs the heart, you know.
And I didn't know that sins have seams. Do you by any chance know what's fashionable these days?
Oh, by the way. Fuck it doesn't do the job. Denying it is the real deal. When you offer a fuck, you don't deny. Kind of comes with the territory.
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 8:25 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 12:56 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: The Mormons believe they are Christians just as sincerely as you do.
How can we discern the difference ??
You are at a disadvantage in this regard.
However, when you study the history of the Catholic Church and the doctrines of Christianity, you will, in time, be able to discern the differences.
But absent a valid baptism, Mormons are not Christians:
Vatican Will Not Accept Mormon Baptisms
July 20, 2001
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jul/20/news/mn-24451
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 8:29 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm)PiousPaladin Wrote: Why would a Christian care what the Mormons think about the bible? They're not even Christians, they believe there is more than one God.
So do you, jackass.
Mike, this is simply untrue, and you know it.
If you want to continue to argue against this straw man, so be it.
But you look foolish in doing so.
If you're going to make the effort, why not argue against what Catholics actually believe?
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 8:30 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 8:25 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (June 28, 2015 at 12:56 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: The Mormons believe they are Christians just as sincerely as you do.
How can we discern the difference ??
You are at a disadvantage in this regard.
However, when you study the history of the Catholic Church and the doctrines of Christianity, you will, in time, be able to discern the differences.
But absent a valid baptism, Mormons are not Christians:
Vatican Will Not Accept Mormon Baptisms
July 20, 2001
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jul/20/news/mn-24451
That doesn't help all that much. They still sincerely believe that they are christians, and they don't care what the Vatican has to say, because...They're not catholics!
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RE: ex-Christians and the unpardonable sin
June 28, 2015 at 8:31 pm
(June 28, 2015 at 4:09 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I wouldn't wear it. It's too childish. That's the kind of thing a 15 year old rebelling against his parents would wear.
How is wearing this t-shirt any less mature than failing to understand (or admit) that Christians are trinitarians and not polytheists?
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