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Your views on MARRIAGE
#71
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
(July 9, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(July 9, 2015 at 12:15 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Okay, I loled.

He needs to change his username to DeShawn now.

... and you need to get yourself a weave, talking like that.

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#72
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
(July 9, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(July 9, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He needs to change his username to DeShawn now.

... and you need to get yourself a weave, talking like that.

Hhahahaha!!

Oh my gosh, is this bad? I feel bad lol.

I'm not racist, I love all people, I promise!!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#73
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
My 2 cents...
I think the problem isn't exactly the marrying several people together... that should be simple enough, just add several lines under the marrying persons on the document and be done with it.
Nomenclature might be troublesome, but I guess husband and wife would still work decently for any of the male and female individuals, respectively.

The trouble begins when assigning responsibility over any children - should it rest solely on the two biological parents?
What if the biological father is not known? Technology allows DNA testing to solve that, but not all people want that...
Should it rest on the whole household that remains behind as long as there's more than one person?
Alimony?
What if the person leaving the household is the sole money-bringing one?
As someone said, what about if the child is close to one parent who isn't his biological one? becomes some sort of uncle/aunt?

How to prevent trafficking?
Naturalization through marriage? Can one single person marry a bunch of others at once and naturalize them all?

It's a can of worms... one that could be unraveled.... I don't see why not... but it would maybe require far more work than most politicians are willing to put into it on most countries.
Present rules don't scale up too well.



EDIT: Also, C_L, if your husband ever cheats on you, he's a fucking dumbass!
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#74
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
(July 9, 2015 at 12:47 pm)pocaracas Wrote: My 2 cents...
I think the problem isn't exactly the marrying several people together... that should be simple enough, just add several lines under the marrying persons on the document and be done with it.
Nomenclature might be troublesome, but I guess husband and wife would still work decently for any of the male and female individuals, respectively.

The trouble begins when assigning responsibility over any children - should it rest solely on the two biological parents?
What if the biological father is not known? Technology allows DNA testing to solve that, but not all people want that...
Should it rest on the whole household that remains behind as long as there's more than one person?
Alimony?
What if the person leaving the household is the sole money-bringing one?
As someone said, what about if the child is close to one parent who isn't his biological one? becomes some sort of uncle/aunt?

How to prevent trafficking?
Naturalization through marriage? Can one single person marry a bunch of others at once and naturalize them all?

It's a can of worms... one that could be unraveled.... I don't see why not... but it would maybe require far more work than most politicians are willing to put into it on most countries.
Present rules don't scale up too well.



EDIT: Also, C_L, if your husband ever cheats on you, he's a fucking dumbass!

Good point about the children.

And thanks! Smile

(July 9, 2015 at 12:03 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:
(July 9, 2015 at 10:14 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Um, if my husband cheated on me (which he never will, btw)
What if he is the one to get cheated?  Angel

Haha, cheating on my husband would be like breaking into someone's car to steal some change in the cup holder after I just won the lottery....  Heart Blush

I'd have to be a complete idiot to do something that stupid.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#75
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
That's really sweet Smile

I sometimes break into my own car to steal my change.

No I don't.
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#76
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
Oh.... and how does cheating work?! This own should be fairly straightforward - have sex with anyone not on the marriage contract.
What does it mean to be incapable of consuming the marriage? no sex with at least one of the partners? with all? Should the consented sex couples be included in the contract? Or should the contract permit a free for all, maybe leading to a few rapes along the way?...
How does annulment work?
Too many aspects for those poor underpaid politicians!
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#77
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
Quote:You are incorrect in your assertion of me. When my husband and I got married, he was still a college student, and I had a restaurant job. We didn't start making any real money until my husband joined the Air Force as a pilot 3 years after we got married. Our reason for getting married had nothing to do with financial gain because neither one of us had any money at the time.
My assertion?  LOL, you know...since I never said anything -at all- about financial gain, this response seems strange.  

Quote:Um, if my husband cheated on me (which he never will, btw), the last words to come out of my mouth would be: "but how could you cheat on me? We had a government contract!" Rolleyes
I doubt that very much, however, just as above....it's not much of a response to -my- comments.  

I'll say it again, there's no reason to be pious, particularly with me.  You both enjoy and benefit from the contract, it is important to you, or you'd not have entered into it.  Pretending otherwise in service of this little narrative cheapens both god and the relationship you've agreed to. If you want to be silly about it, and set up a little rankings list, I'd be willing to guess "but you promised -me-" will occur to your mind before "but you promised -god-", and that's okay.......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#78
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
The notion of marriage is ridiculous. I for one won't get hanged like that. If we bind ourselves to others and need a paper to show for it, you are doing it the wrong way. A catholic priest once told me about faith (we got setup on the same table, thanks to my devout catholic sisters), that I replied to have none. The priest asked then, what I called that trust/faith that my wife won't cheat on me, to wich I simply replied, that although my trust may be betrayed, she at least is as real as it gets. Actually, it was a nice guy and we had a nice chat, not the kind of sophistc characters we usually get around here. (not you CL)

Alas, it is kind of a tradition, I guess, to redtape EVERYTHING.
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#79
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
(July 9, 2015 at 1:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
Quote:You are incorrect in your assertion of me. When my husband and I got married, he was still a college student, and I had a restaurant job. We didn't start making any real money until my husband joined the Air Force as a pilot 3 years after we got married. Our reason for getting married had nothing to do with financial gain because neither one of us had any money at the time.
My assertion?  LOL, you know...since I never said anything -at all- about financial gain, this response seems strange.  

Quote:Um, if my husband cheated on me (which he never will, btw), the last words to come out of my mouth would be: "but how could you cheat on me? We had a government contract!" Rolleyes
I doubt that very much, however, just as above....it's not much of a response to -my- comments.  

I'll say it again, there's no reason to be pious, particularly with me.  You both enjoy and benefit from the contract, it is important to you, or you'd not have entered into it.  Pretending otherwise in service of this little narrative cheapens both god and the relationship you've agreed to.

I'm glad I have an anonymous stranger on the internet to tell me what is important to me. Wink
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#80
RE: Your views on MARRIAGE
Always glad to help. But hey, if you absolutely -insist- that your promises to god mean more than your relationship in the here and now, and the agreements you've entered into together...then fine. You can be that person.

-Good luck on that count.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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