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| Poll: Overpopulation is a serious problem and you get to cast the deciding vote. Which do you choose? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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| It is more important that people can decide how many children they want to have, than that they can have enough food to eat. So I vote that there will be no forced restrictions on having children, and so millions of people will starve to death. | 9 | 36.00% | |
| It is more important that people do not starve to death, than that they have the freedom to reproduce at will. So I vote that there will be forced restrictions on having children, and so people will be forcibly made sterile once they have children. | 16 | 64.00% | |
| Total | 25 vote(s) | 100% | |
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Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.
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 (July 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: What scientific evidence suggests that everything will die? I know of no such evidence. Nor do I accept your eschatological premise. You sound like a religious nut. Everybody dies. Myself, probably of old age. Everybody else, when the sun dies. The universe is expanding at an accelerated rate which means that eventually it will not have enough localized energy to do any work, so no new stars and everything will just cool down and shut down. Everything ends eventually.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  (July 11, 2015 at 6:11 pm)IATIA Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: What scientific evidence suggests that everything will die? I know of no such evidence. Nor do I accept your eschatological premise. You sound like a religious nut. You might not die of old age. You might get treatment or medication to extend your life indefinitely. Everyone might not die when the sun "dies". We might prevent that from happening in the future, or we might protect ourselves from it happening while at the same time inventing a way to sustain ourselves without the help of natural sunlight, or we might even travel to a new sun. You just don't know, do you? Is that definitely the case, about the universe? Is it so sure a thing that there's absolutely no arguing about it? I doubt that.  (July 11, 2015 at 3:22 pm)KUSA Wrote: I think if we ever get to the point where forced sterilization is necessary we should start with people that have low IQ levels. Let the smart people have kids and let the stupid ones go extinct. I was wondering when eugenics would make its appearance.  (July 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: ... Mostly, I click on "Today's Posts" and look at all of the pages on that, and on "My Posts" and look at each page until I encounter a page in which I have no unread threads. I used to look at each forum that interested me individually, and occasionally still do that, but it is now fairly rare. Of course, to start a thread, I still do that. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
 (July 11, 2015 at 6:28 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 3:22 pm)KUSA Wrote: I think if we ever get to the point where forced sterilization is necessary we should start with people that have low IQ levels. Let the smart people have kids and let the stupid ones go extinct. Yup, seems like the next logical step, in this sort of thinking. Scary stuff, if you ask me. 
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.
July 11, 2015 at 6:45 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2015 at 6:46 pm by IATIA.)
(July 11, 2015 at 6:18 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: You might not die of old age. You might get treatment or medication to extend your life indefinitely. Not going to happen. I have a living will to eliminate that scenario or any others. excitedpenguin Wrote:Everyone might not die when the sun "dies". We might prevent that from happening in the future, or we might protect ourselves from it happening while at the same time inventing a way to sustain ourselves without the help of natural sunlight, or we might even travel to a new sun. You just don't know, do you? Without the sun, we have no energy and the sun will die because it is out of fuel. Will not be able to fix that. excitedpenguin Wrote:Is that definitely the case, about the universe? Is it so sure a thing that there's absolutely no arguing about it? I doubt that.Yes. In the long run, humankind will be long gone anyway.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.
July 11, 2015 at 7:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2015 at 7:10 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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