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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 7:54 am
Randy is hurting his own cause way more than he realises. I apologise to other Christians reading this, and I don't assume he is representative.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 7:59 am
Randy did say that he was going to be shooting fish in a barrel here from now on so don't say you haven't been warned.
It's probably a new sales technique he's been trying out at work.
The gods did not reveal, from the beginning,
All things to us, but in the course of time
Through seeking we may learn and know things better.
These things are, we conjecture, like the truth.
But as for certain truth, no man has known it,
Nor shall he know it, neither of the gods
Nor yet of all the things of which I speak.
And even if by chance he were to utter
The final truth, he would himself not know it:
For all is but a woven web of guesses.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 8:01 am
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His signature tells us everything we need to know about him. Egotism, self-centered, delusional to the extreme.
So he's put some people on his ignore list. Great, well done, he figured out that function. Nobody cares.
"Far too many trolls" translates to "far too many people who disagree with my view who won't be convinced by shoddy, ill thought through reasoning with no evidence to back it up". Have people been 'mean' to him here? Yeah probably, but no more than he gives out. And none of it should come as a surprise to him considering the obvious laissez-faire attitude we have towards members here, aside when then obviously and repeatedly break the rules.
I don't mind being the subject of criticism as my position in the staff, but only as long as it's warranted. All I read is whine, whine whine, cry, cry, cry. It's like fucking Monty Python. Change the record already.
He can shoot fish in a barrel in his mind all he wants. I don't really mind or care for that matter where he sets the benchmark for 'winning' an argument. Lurkers and members alike can see through the smokescreen.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 8:05 am
I sort of regret calling him a something something something cuntstain, but it's somewhat mitigated by the fact that he keep acting like one. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 9:33 am
(July 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: 1. Start a thread by inserting an absurd quote from one individual from the Other Side. Linking to a news item from an obscure website also works.
2. Make broad sweeping generalizations about EVERYONE on the Other Side based on the single example cited in Step 1.
3. Express outrage, disbelief or both at the beliefs and actions of the Other Side cited in Step 1.
4. Use foul-language to show that you're all grown up now and that YOU'RE REALLY SERIOUS about not liking the Other Side cited in Step 1.
5. Follow up with obligatory YouTube videos and/or memes mocking the Other Side.
6. Yuck it up with anyone from Your Side who also posts mocking the Other Side using steps 2, 3, 4 or 5.
7. Congratulate yourself and others for really having given the Other Side what for.
8. Thank God that you are not on the Other Side. Oh, wait...
Repeat Steps 1-7 daily to avoid actually thinking about what the Other Side is saying. (And joining them.)
Didn't they make you swear not to give your trade secrets away at apologist college. Don't worry, I won't report you.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 10:18 am
I like Randy. There, I said it. I try to see the best in him and all theists on this site. I understand that that may make me naive or an idiot, or both, but I am what I am. I find it hard to believe that a professing Christian would knowingly be dishonest or a bad person because that would be going against their entire belief system. So I make the assumption that all theists here are honest and decent, or at least trying to be. And the only one I've taken any strong dislike to was PiousPaladin and she turned out to be a Poe.
But ultimately I think the approach Randy has taken was not very wise. I've seen two other members make a similar entrance, one very recently. Anyone who comes in with all guns blazing trying to be different, just comes off as aggressive and superior whether they intended it or not, or at least to me. I find it hard to trust those sort of unpredictable people and end up needlessly keeping them at arm's length, always wondering what their motives are. It seems completely pointless to me and the only explanation I can think of is that it is a kind of pre-emptive strike designed to gauge other people's reactions, either that or deliberately setting yourself up for a fall to fit in with your self-image. But those are just guesses.
But all this is on a personal level. I'm still an atheist and I strongly disagree with most of what theists have to say. I just find it hard to separate the person from the beliefs in discussion and am basically very timid, so I haven't been much involved up to this point. But this site is my home and it is a discussion forum so I need to get over that, so I'm going to try and start now.
@Randy
I like you as a person but unfortunately, try as I might, I find it very hard to trust you. Not that you necessarily care what I think, or should, but nonetheless if you did it would be easily rectified by opening up about yourself... by using the other forums or playing mafia. Just some way for you to tell me, and us, who you are rather than what you believe.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 10:28 am
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I think it's lovely that you see the good in people, there's nothing wrong with that  And great to see you on the forum my friend.
I really have trouble assessing what goes through the mind of such people. I don't necessarily think they are a bad people, they have just been forced one way or another to explain the unexplainable and defend the indefensible. They will fail, but in their mind they will win. The tactics they use are broken, the only question is do they know they are broken or are they oblivious? Do they care if their arguments are sound?
I don't know! I really don't. I agree it would be great to see all the theists taking a more personal role in the forum, visiting other areas and talking to atheists like people. We are all people, after all. Not every interaction has to be a religious debate.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 10:23 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 7:31 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I posted this thread in fun, but the responses are hilarious.
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No, really. My OP was a parody.
Look for the humor. It's there.
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(July 13, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: No, really. My OP was a parody.
Everything you post is a parody.
(July 13, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Look for the humor. It's there.
That's what you said about god. And you can't prove that either.
Stick to being unintentionally funny...
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RE: How to Prove Your Own Position without Trying Very Hard
July 13, 2015 at 10:37 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: 1. Start a thread by inserting an absurd quote from one individual from the Other Side. Linking to a news item from an obscure website also works.
2. Make broad sweeping generalizations about EVERYONE on the Other Side based on the single example cited in Step 1.
3. Express outrage, disbelief or both at the beliefs and actions of the Other Side cited in Step 1.
4. Use foul-language to show that you're all grown up now and that YOU'RE REALLY SERIOUS about not liking the Other Side cited in Step 1.
5. Follow up with obligatory YouTube videos and/or memes mocking the Other Side.
6. Yuck it up with anyone from Your Side who also posts mocking the Other Side using steps 2, 3, 4 or 5.
7. Congratulate yourself and others for really having given the Other Side what for.
8. Thank God that you are not on the Other Side. Oh, wait...
Repeat Steps 1-7 daily to avoid actually thinking about what the Other Side is saying. (And joining them.)
You added step 4 in hopes we wouldn't recognize your methods, didn't you?
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