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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 12:25 pm
Wait so god made man in his image? But with the evolution chain in mind god must look like..... Oh no!!!
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 12:28 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 12:25 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Wait so god made man in his image? But with the evolution chain in mind god must look like..... Oh no!!!
That's right...you guessed it...God is one of those Precambrian dick tree things.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 12:46 pm
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(July 15, 2015 at 10:57 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Also the serpent was not a snake, after he beguiled Eve, God cursed the serpent to crawl on it's belly .... which makes no sense if he was a snake.
Of course it wasn't a snake, that would be ridiculous.........it was a dragon.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 12:51 pm
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Hmm another question, how do you know which parts of your scriptures are allegorical and which are literal?
If the genesis is allegorical, could the god mentioned within be allegorical too?
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 1:15 pm
My reaction to the whole of the bible is, "That would be ridiculous". No need to be specific.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 2:33 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 9:54 am)Drich Wrote: Man was made in the image of God/Adam and Eve and their off spring.
Monkey man/evolved man is what was found outside the garden/was allowed to evolve, and never did the two meet till the fall.
My account seperates the creation account by pointing out that everything in Genesis/creation seems to be from a central garden POV. Everything outside of that garden (which was made to resemble evolved earth at the time of the fall to ease the transition from the garden to the natural world)
So basically everything the bible points to happens in the Garden world (which again is about 2/3 of the size of North America according to some speculations) and evolution would have occoured outside the garden however you like.
Y'know, for someone so serious about what the bible really means when anyone else talks about it, you sure are happy to bandy about "the bible doesn't say this didn't happen!" as an argument when it's in service of your own positions.
Hey! Maybe the garden was actually up in space, and it descended to earth to let Adam and Eve off, before rising back up on wires! The bible doesn't say it didn't happen, therefore it's equally as possible as what you're saying. Bible fan fiction is easy, but it's also not compelling: you can make up anything, so long as your only criteria for plausibility is that it isn't explicitly denied in canon.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 3:01 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 12:25 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Wait so god made man in his image? But with the evolution chain in mind god must look like..... Oh no!!!
Did you actually read the OP on the thread I linked?
-Or is it your assumption that the evolution of monkey man was just random?
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 3:20 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 12:25 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Wait so god made man in his image? But with the evolution chain in mind god must look like..... Oh no!!!
Did you actually read the OP on the thread I linked?
-Or is it your assumption that the evolution of monkey man was just random?
I did read just the OP on that thread, not the entire thread though. But the above is based on your explanation in this thread
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 3:28 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 2:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Y'know, for someone so serious about what the bible really means when anyone else talks about it, you sure are happy to bandy about "the bible doesn't say this didn't happen!" as an argument when it's in service of your own positions. Dude, seriously?!?
I have to say: "This bible doesn't say this happened" Because That is what rock headed theist and Atheist believe, or rather blindly assume that the fall of man happened on Day 8 or 1 week after creation started. THAT is the only way YECs can say creation is only 5 or 6 thousand years old. Which is what sends you guys into a feeding frenzy. Both are guilty of blind assumption and ignoring what the other has to say, all the while assuming what you have to say can only be the right answer. without out even checking the source material to ensure that it even supports your assumption.
It's only when you simply read what is written, and do not add the assumption that the fall happened right away, then both Accounts of creation CAN work together.
Quote:Hey! Maybe the garden was actually up in space, and it descended to earth to let Adam and Eve off, before rising back up on wires! The bible doesn't say it didn't happen, therefore it's equally as possible as what you're saying. Bible fan fiction is easy, but it's also not compelling: you can make up anything, so long as your only criteria for plausibility is that it isn't explicitly denied in canon.
Well, no it couldn't have worked that way because of the placement in the middle east (Or rather the rivers) that defined it are and have been established in the genesis account, not to mention the genesis mentions earth several different times, from the source of where God got the material to fashion Adam to the bird that flew above the earth to the fish that swam in the water, and Adam's interaction with these animals.
The earth is the earth. The garden however was a reserve placed on the Earth that Adam, Eve and God communed.
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RE: Are Evolution and Christianity Completely Incompatible?
July 15, 2015 at 3:36 pm
Evolution is not random. If you think it is, you don't understand it.
Mutations etc are random. Natural selection is not.
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