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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 7:29 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 7:17 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. 
You wrote:
Quote:To us Christians, we see it as being God (which we also don't fully understand).
So by your own admission you don't comprehend your favorite deity whom you worship but you believe that he favors a certain ethnic group to the exclusion of the rest of humanity because their ethnocentric religious fairy tale says so.
I still have no idea what you're talking about or how you get that from what I wrote. Can you clarify again a little more? Seems like you just repeated what you wrote the first time.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm
He's basically saying that by your own admission you don't understand the god you believe in, but are happy to fully commit to the ethno-centric religion (namely catholicism) in his name...
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 7:54 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 7:32 pm)Napoléon Wrote: He's basically saying that by your own admission you don't understand the god you believe in, but are happy to fully commit to the ethno-centric religion (namely catholicism) in his name...
Yes, admitting that we don't fully understand God is a big part of Christianity. 
Why do you think Catholicism is ethnocentric?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:04 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 7:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why do you think Catholicism is ethnocentric?
Oh no, sorry, my mistake. A religion that has had its figurehead seated in the same place for over a thousand years isn't ethnocentric at all. 
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:04 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 7:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why do you think Catholicism is ethnocentric?
Oh no, sorry, my mistake. A religion that has had its figurehead seated in the same place for over a thousand years isn't ethnocentric at all.
Just to clarify... are you saying Catholicism is ethnocentric because the Pope always lives in Rome while he's pope?
A lot of different races of people from a lot of different places are Catholic.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm
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(July 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Just to clarify... are you saying Catholicism is ethnocentric because the Pope always lives in Rome while he's pope?
It's ethnocentric for much the same reason it's called the Roman catholic church and was born from western European culture.
Quote:A lot of different races of people from a lot of different places are Catholic.
Same can be said of Muslims, doesn't make that religion any less an Arabic one.
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Just to clarify... are you saying Catholicism is ethnocentric because the Pope always lives in Rome while he's pope?
It's ethnocentric for much the same reason it's called the Roman catholic church and was born from western European culture.
Quote:A lot of different races of people from a lot of different places are Catholic.
Same can be said of Muslims, doesn't make that religion any less an Arabic one.
I don't think Islam is quite as diverse as Christianity.
Don't you agree though, that even though it was born from European culture, the fact that so many other cultures from around the world are Catholic, makes it a pretty culturally diverse religion?
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:34 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think Islam is quite as diverse as Christianity.
And what are you basing this on?
Quote:Don't you agree though, that even though it was born from European culture, the fact that so many other cultures from around the world are Catholic, makes it a pretty culturally diverse religion?
No, not really.
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:41 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:34 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think Islam is quite as diverse as Christianity.
And what are you basing this on?
Quote:Don't you agree though, that even though it was born from European culture, the fact that so many other cultures from around the world are Catholic, makes it a pretty culturally diverse religion?
No, not really.
This is common knowledge, but a quick google search provided me with some statistics:
http://www.pewforum.org/2014/04/04/globa...diversity/
...As you can see, Christianity is a lot more spread out around the world than Islam is.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm
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"Dispersed" Catholic...not "diverse". As in, geographically dispersed.
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