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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:44 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Dispersed" Catholic...not "diverse". As in, geographically dispersed.
Holy......shit............ 
I meant diverse as well. Meaning people from a lot of different races and cultures are Catholic.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:45 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Dispersed" Catholic...not "diverse". As in, geographically dispersed.
Holy......shit............
Yeah I'm not even going there with that level of fail.
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:47 pm
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-and that doesn't make catholicism diverse, Catholic, it makes catholicism's -followers- diverse. -and no, you didn't....see bolded bit below
@Nap.....real amusing bit...I was typing that response -before- she pointed to a map. I giggled into my drink like a little girl when I hit the post.
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:48 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:45 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Dispersed" Catholic...not "diverse". As in, geographically dispersed.
Holy......shit............
Yeah I'm not even going there with that level of fail.
Did you see my post #61?
The 2 (diverse and dispersed) are related. The culture in Asia, for example, is very different from the culture in South America. So if I say there is diversity in Catholicism, I can point to the fact that there are Catholics in all parts of the world from many different cultures.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:50 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -and that doesn't make catholicism diverse, Catholic, it makes catholicism's -followers- diverse. -and no, you didn't.....
@Nap.....real amusing bit...I was typing that response -before- she pointed to a map. I giggled into my drink like a little girl when hit the post.
Well, when I say Catholicism, I am talking about the people who practice it. I don't know how else that could be taken. Sorry, I thought that was implied.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Hey, Cath, it's okay, don't dig it deeper and deeper. We see that too often and you're better than that.
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 8:51 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 8:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hey, Cath, it's okay, don't dig it deeper and deeper. We see that too often and you're better than that.
Not digging deeper. 
Just clarifying what I'm sure you guys already knew anyway.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 9:09 pm
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An example of a diverse religion, rather than just a religion whose followers are -themselves- diverse, would be Hinduism, btw, if the subject interests you. It is so diverse, itself, that many wonder at the sense of considering it a single monolith, that there is a "Hindu Religion" at all. Rather, that there are many religions (or "x") all under the header of "Hinduism".
Do you feel that catholicism can make such a claim?
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 9:21 pm
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The actual religion itself isn't really diverse. Whatever Catholic church you go to the teachings are the same, whether it's a Catholic Church in Valletta, Dublin, Sao Paulo or Manila (four cities and cultures which are otherwise strikingly diverse apart from dominant religion).
Sure there's "diversity" among Catholic people in terms of devoutness and wider ethnic culture, but it's very homogenous in terms of what the values and beliefs are.
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RE: A Religion for the Non Religious
July 19, 2015 at 9:43 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 9:21 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: The actual religion itself isn't really diverse. Whatever Catholic church you go to the teachings are the same, whether it's a Catholic Church in Valletta, Dublin, Sao Paulo or Manila (four cities and cultures which are otherwise strikingly diverse apart from dominant religion).
Sure there's "diversity" among Catholic people in terms of devoutness and wider ethnic culture, but it's very homogenous in terms of what the values and beliefs are.
I don't understand how a religion, itself, can be diverse. When I was talking about Catholicism not being ethnocentric, I was referring to the people in different cultures and different parts of the world who make up the Catholic Church.
I wasn't talking about devoutness, or anything like that.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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