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Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
#61
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Pizza Wrote:
(July 17, 2015 at 11:38 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Randy's minimal facts of the resurrection. Hehe
I now doubt Jesus existed because of Randy.  Thumb up

I now doubt Randy's brain exists because of Randy.  Jesus can go fuck himself.
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#62
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
Haven't heard one yet.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#63
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Pizza Wrote:
(July 17, 2015 at 11:38 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Randy's minimal facts of the resurrection. Hehe
I now doubt Jesus existed because of Randy.  Thumb up

See Jesus?!? This is what happens when you send the "B" team. Souls are lost!
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#64
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 2:02 am)SamS Wrote: Has there ever been a Christian argument, or something a Christian said, that made you, for even a split second, question whether your current atheistic stance is right?
Even if the argument turned out to be completely fabricated or disprovable, did it at the very least draw you closer to believing the Bible is God's Word and all that such a belief entails?
If not, has there ever been an argument that you didn't know how to answer, or that surprised you  against your expectations?
Not looking for "All Christian arguments are idiotic" replies. This is an honest question.

I consider myself a recent deconvert; within two years. I am probably one of the least deeply logical people I know, simply because it is very cumbersome for me to reason through advanced arguments. (Thank you 30+ years of fundamentalist indoctrination.) Be that as it may, I have yet to hear an argument that after careful consideration would make me reconsider. Even if one existed, there are hundreds of others that have perforations larger than a super-massive black hole.
**Crickets** -- God
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#65
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Pizza Wrote:
(July 17, 2015 at 11:38 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Randy's minimal facts of the resurrection. Hehe
I now doubt Jesus existed because of Randy. Thumb up

Seriously though, you'd think god could afford better lawyers. The more I read from apologists the stronger my disbelief. Gj guys! Thanks a bunchies c:
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#66
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 4:20 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:
(July 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Pizza Wrote: I now doubt Jesus existed because of Randy.  Thumb up

Seriously though, you'd think god could afford better lawyers. The more I read from apologists the stronger my disbelief. Gj guys! Thanks a bunchies c:

Yes, when I was deconverting, the inanities from religious people was far more influential than anything nonreligious people said.  I was raised to think of nonbelievers as tools of the devil, so I did not trust them.  But the simple fact is, the religious people have bugger all in favor of their nonsense.  The more they speak and try to convince, the more obvious it is that they cannot reason properly and have no real evidence at all for their position.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#67
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 4:15 pm)tonechaser77 Wrote:
(July 17, 2015 at 2:02 am)SamS Wrote: Has there ever been a Christian argument, or something a Christian said, that made you, for even a split second, question whether your current atheistic stance is right?
Even if the argument turned out to be completely fabricated or disprovable, did it at the very least draw you closer to believing the Bible is God's Word and all that such a belief entails?
If not, has there ever been an argument that you didn't know how to answer, or that surprised you  against your expectations?
Not looking for "All Christian arguments are idiotic" replies. This is an honest question.

I consider myself a recent deconvert; within two years. I am probably one of the least deeply logical people I know, simply because it is very cumbersome for me to reason through advanced arguments. (Thank you 30+ years of fundamentalist indoctrination.) Be that as it may, I have yet to hear an argument that after careful consideration would make me reconsider. Even if one existed, there are hundreds of others that have perforations larger than a super-massive black hole.

If there were an actual good argument for the existence of God, don't you think that the religious people would be pushing it hard and making it well-known?  Why put forth nonsense when one has actual sense on one's side?  The fact that they don't push forward such an argument gives you reason to believe that no such argument exists.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#68
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
Not since adulthood. That applies to all the world's religions.

I respect many generic god arguments - arguments for a god nobody knows anything about. Arguments for specific gods like Yahweh/Jesus look no different to me than arguments for the Great Pumpkin. Every religion I've ever heard of is so full of holes it is impossible to take seriously.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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#69
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 5:18 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Not since adulthood. That applies to all the world's religions.

I respect many generic god arguments - arguments for a god nobody knows anything about. Arguments for specific gods like Yahweh/Jesus look no different to me than arguments for the Great Pumpkin. Every religion I've ever heard of is so full of holes it is impossible to take seriously.

For me it's since I began connecting the dots and seeing that what I already knew about the world didn't add up with the tales.

So, any geocentric or humanocentric (is that even a word?) god, was quickly out of the picture. The only thing I could reasonably not rule out entirely, was a totally neutral higher force, not having any interest in the proceedings of these little ant colonies.
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#70
RE: Honest Question to Atheists - Best Argument?
(July 17, 2015 at 5:18 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Not since adulthood. That applies to all the world's religions.

I respect many generic god arguments - arguments for a god nobody knows anything about. Arguments for specific gods like Yahweh/Jesus look no different to me than arguments for the Great Pumpkin. Every religion I've ever heard of is so full of holes it is impossible to take seriously.
For I the silliest part of religions is the appeal to ancient sacred texts. What is it with gods and ancient books?
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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