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Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)
#31
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 8:01 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 6:22 am)robvalue Wrote: Would you like to tell us what you think "scientific" means Rik?


Sure Rob.
Mother nature works in a certain way.
Science is the effort to understand how this way is or how it works
so a scientist is the one who understand or try to understand this process and the word scientific means 
the correct understanding of how mother nature works.  Lightbulb

This sounds fairly reasonable, assuming "Mother Nature" is a metaphor. So how do we know if our findings are correct?
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#32
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 6:27 am)LastPoet Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 5:14 am)luka Wrote: This Little Rik person must be a troll. Please tell me you are. Before I go, what does it mean to be a "Neimen?"

No, he is just that fucked in the head. Enrico, hear a real scientist talking about it:

https://youtu.be/LMrzdk_YnYY


The only thing that admire in this guy is his lung capacity.
It talk and talk without taking a breath of rest.
All the rest is just trying to work out the interrelation between brain and the consciousness.
It is similar to a mechanic that try to understand how the vehicle works.
Nothing really wrong with Ted.
The only thing that i don't agree with him is the fact that he seem to believe that the self and the consciousness are two separate things.
I believe that there is no distinction. 
Ted doesn't understand that there are layers in the consciousness.
The outside layer is what we are aware of.
The inner layer is what is there but we are yet unable to be aware of.
A bit like the part of the iceberg hidden below the water.
If only Ted would have practice yoga he would know much better how the system works.  Smile
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#33
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 5:19 am)robvalue Wrote: Did the "do you believe in God" thread run out of pages?

Why do I keep looking...

Fuck - it's broken loose! Containment failure!!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#34
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
One day I'll learn how to be spiritual. But we have to get this science thing down first.
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#35
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 8:11 am)robvalue Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 8:01 am)Little Rik Wrote: Sure Rob.
Mother nature works in a certain way.
Science is the effort to understand how this way is or how it works
so a scientist is the one who understand or try to understand this process and the word scientific means 
the correct understanding of how mother nature works.  Lightbulb

This sounds fairly reasonable, assuming "Mother Nature" is a metaphor. So how do we know if our findings are correct?



As soon as the theory is put into practice and the practice works perfectly then we know that the findings are correct.   
For working perfectly i mean work in a way that lead to solutions.
These solutions should not be understood as progress as progress doesn't exist within the physical arena.  Lightbulb
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#36
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 8:19 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 6:27 am)LastPoet Wrote: No, he is just that fucked in the head. Enrico, hear a real scientist talking about it:

https://youtu.be/LMrzdk_YnYY


The only thing that admire in this guy is his lung capacity.
It talk and talk without taking a breath of rest.
All the rest is just trying to work out the interrelation between brain and the consciousness.
It is similar to a mechanic that try to understand how the vehicle works(...)

Jawdrop

You are right, mechanics should not know about vehicles. Next time I want to fix my car, i will go to a spiritualist, to faith heal it. Or something.

Enrico, can I have the phone number of your dealer? He seems to have some good shit.
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#37
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 4:00 am)Little Rik Wrote:


Then by your speak, when we die the worms, bacteria and fungi absorb our consciousness.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
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#38
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
Rik - proving that a species that split the atom and sent people to the fucking moon can still result in true, profound stupidity since 2013.
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#39
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 8:26 am)robvalue Wrote: One day I'll learn how to be spiritual. But we have to get this science thing down first.



Rob. 
You know the story of the 3 horses that pull the carriage?
Suppose you got these 3 horses and you or better say your inner self  wish to proceed towards a goal.
Would you feed only one or two horses or you would feed all the 3 horses so they all can pull the carriage properly?
We are in the same situation.
We are made of body-mind and spirit or the inner self.
If you feed only the body and the mind and starve your inner self there is no chances that the carriage of your life would proceed straight.
Nothing wrong with feeding the science.
The wrong thing however is to let starve the rest.  Lightbulb
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#40
RE: Atheism the unscientific believe.
(July 19, 2015 at 8:07 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 6:12 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Stop doing shrooms.


You came in this thread with a loud roar like a lion that want to assert his superiority but it seems that now you loss the roar.  Smile

I don't have any superiority to assert. My mind is just boggled from how dead serious you appear to be while spurting out nonsense. That, and I'm still waiting for you to provide an instance of a plant demonstrating consciousness as defined earlier. Please feel free to do it at any moment now. Until then, I really don't know what else to say to you.
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