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Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
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RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 7:43 am)huss88ein Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 7:38 am)robvalue Wrote: What? Parents choosing the sexuality of their children? What crackpot shit have you been reading?

I'm sorry, I can't have a sensible conversation with you. If you think it's a choice, seriously guy, you're gay/bi yourself. I'll leave you to your ignorance.
Man he did the study not me

And he was the on who suggested that homosexuality is genetic in the first place .

(July 19, 2015 at 7:38 am)robvalue Wrote: What? Parents choosing the sexuality of their children? What crackpot shit have you been reading?

I'm sorry, I can't have a sensible conversation with you. If you think it's a choice, seriously guy, you're gay/bi yourself. I'll leave you to your ignorance.
Man he did the study not me

And he was the one who suggested that homosexuality is genetic in the first place .

(July 19, 2015 at 7:42 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Im sorry but WHAT! Are you saying only men have the genes to get syphilis and AIDS?
No the genes of homosexuality

So your saying only men have a "homosexual gene"? What about lesbians?
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#32
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
fixed my post ...no-one chose nothing Rob...
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#33
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 7:49 am)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 7:43 am)huss88ein Wrote: Man he did the study not me

And he was the on who suggested that homosexuality is genetic in the first place .

Man he did the study not me

And he was the one who suggested that homosexuality is genetic in the first place .

No the genes of homosexuality

So your saying only men have a "homosexual gene"? What about lesbians?
Studies suggest that it's an x linked gene so two pairs are required to have it in a woman and that's almost an impossibility
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#34
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 8:00 am)huss88ein Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 7:49 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: So your saying only men have a "homosexual gene"? What about lesbians?
Studies suggest that it's an x linked gene so two pairs are required to have it in a woman and that's almost an impossibility

And yet we have a lot of gay and bisexual women.
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#35
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 5:47 am)huss88ein Wrote: First being gay is bad for u in a matter of fact a gay person is at higher risk for diseases and rectal cancer



Second if u gave gays the right to practice their rituals u must give it to others such as zoophiles and sado maso couples .
Some might say it's ok with them as these aren't hurting anyone else too .

Third in med school we've been introduced to a notion called violent genes which exist in some people giving them tendencies (like the gay tendencies) to commit crime and when the study had been made the majority of criminals have them and some others have them and didn't commit crimes they controlled these tendencies.
We can deduct from that
That gay people can suppress these tendencies even if they're genetic.

First - scientific and peer reviewed source for that, if you please.

Second - the usual religious bullshit, christians, muslims and probably jews spew all over the land.

Third - link to that study, if you please. Scientific and peer reviewed of course.

Nobody asked you, by the way. It's assumed that staunchly religious persons are often leaning to the homophobe side. But may I just add that it's a bit rich, coming from a person, who hasn't got any problems with arranged marriage and child brides.
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#36
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 7:55 am)ignoramus Wrote: fixed my post ...no-one chose nothing Rob...

OK, thanks. So I was right first time then, even though I thought he was talking about someone who was already born and the parents "making" them straight/gay.

Where... where did choice even vaguely come into it then? Did they just write down what they wanted their kid to be?

I just can't argue with people this dishonest. He will say anything instead of simply admitting being gay isn't a conscious choice. It's really sad what religion can do to a mind.
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RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 8:16 am)robvalue Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 7:55 am)ignoramus Wrote: fixed my post ...no-one chose nothing Rob...

OK, thanks. So I was right first time then, even though I thought he was talking about someone who was already born and the parents "making" them straight/gay.

Where... where did choice even vaguely come into it then? Did they just write down what they wanted their kid to be?

I just can't argue with people this dishonest. He will say anything instead of simply admitting being gay isn't a conscious choice. It's really sad what religion can do to a mind.

What's strange is he is trying to make the argument to me that only men posses a gay gene. In one argument he is arguing its genetic and the other he's arguing it's a choice, talk about dishonesty.
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#38
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
The question as always:

Does he know how dishonest he is being, or is he so entrenched that he actually isn't aware?

I'm telling you right now man, you are seriously dishonest. Now you know. You need to fix that if you want to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn't already agree with you.
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RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
(July 19, 2015 at 8:13 am)abaris Wrote:
(July 19, 2015 at 5:47 am)huss88ein Wrote: First being gay is bad for u in a matter of fact a gay person is at higher risk for diseases and rectal cancer



Second if u gave gays the right to practice their rituals u must give it to others such as zoophiles and sado maso couples .
Some might say it's ok with them as these aren't hurting anyone else too .

Third in med school we've been introduced to a notion called violent genes which exist in some people giving them tendencies (like the gay tendencies) to commit crime and when the study had been made the majority of criminals have them and some others have them and didn't commit crimes they controlled these tendencies.
We can deduct from that
That gay people can suppress these tendencies even if they're genetic.

First - scientific and peer reviewed source for that, if you please.

Second - the usual religious bullshit, christians, muslims and probably jews spew all over the land.

Third - link to that study, if you please. Scientific and peer reviewed of course.

Nobody asked you, by the way. It's assumed that staunchly religious persons are often leaning to the homophobe side. But may I just add that it's a bit rich, coming from a person, who hasn't got any problems with arranged marriage and child brides.
Here's your link for the second the first is in the original post

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29760212

And I have a problem with arranged marriage and a child marriage depending on the definition of a child of course which is not agreed on even in ur countries. .

(July 19, 2015 at 8:25 am)robvalue Wrote: The question as always:

Does he know how dishonest he is being, or is he so entrenched that he actually isn't aware?

I'm telling you right now man, you are seriously dishonest. Now you know. You need to fix that if you want to be taken seriously by anyone who doesn't already agree with you.
Firs What dishonesty it is just a study not facts and others argued it and in canada they did find a totally different gene from the one found in america and in women the presence of this gene seems to augment fertility so they're all just theories no more.

Even though I've tried to stay objective and take these studies which oppose each other as a fact and I think that we agreed that it's even according to these studies these genes play a minor roll in sexual orientation so what more do u want from me.
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#40
RE: Why homosexuality is forbidden in islam
Homosexuality is forbidden is islam because the people who wrote the book - along with a great many other people in the world at that time and this, were bigots. That's the entire explanation. There's nothing else to it.
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