Why Christianity?

[vorlon13]

So how do we know Allah is real?
Because in the Quran there is a set of instructions for those looking to find Allah. Follow the instructions and you will be able to directly communicate to Allah. Allah will validate Himself if you can follow said instructions.

-_-

Drich, do you  think that Muslims or Hindus don't believe that their deities validate their faith? They believe as fervently in their deity as you do in yours

And you didn't have to go clear to 'Hindu' either.

I'm sure Drich would feel the catholics, or the MCC, or the Seventh Day Adventists, or the JWs, or the Reticulated Presbyterians (I'd love to list 39,999 'christian' faiths that Drich ain't party to) or some outfit out there, ain't REALLY christian, and they be hell bound too.

[Minimalist]

Nope, you should read more carefully, God called me.

Oh we read it, G-C.  It's simply hard for us to believe that anyone could be as fucking stupid as you sound.  Although, you are convincing me that you are.

[abaris]

What has happened has happened and I'm glad of it, you should remember that I don't speculate I'm tired of having to remind you of this.

GC

You don't have to remind me. I know what you're saying over and over. It's just that I don't think for a single minute you wouldn't feel the same about any other god if you had been socialised the same way in a different corner of the world.

[Pyrrho]

So let me get this straight. The reasons your religion is unique is because your book and some people described someone inside of the book, some philosophy gibberish inside of the book, and some pages inside the book. 

In all seriousness, however, your factual basis on which you hold most of your beliefs can not be the book in which you hold most of your beliefs. For example, if I say I believe in the Three Little Pigs, I can not point to the title of the book and say, "Proof!" It's dishonest and silly to do so in that context and in the context of your post.

Your post could be evidence that your religion is more unique, but that says nothing about its superior validity when it is confronted by other religions.

Well, I didn't argue all the implicit points, but implied in my argument is that I would expect God to explain/manifest his name/face in creation in detail and remind in detail, and I only find that done in Shia Islam.  It's not something I would expect if I was ignorant, but once you come to understand the concept of God's Name and face as explained in Quran and hadiths of the 12 Imams, then you come to know it's something that God would emphasize on.  The fact no other religion does, points to Islam being the truth. As for Suratal Ikhlaas, I just find how it logically flows but so simple and rhymes really well (every sentence rhymes), and shows logically how to know the most important vital truth and central reminder of all Messenger to be mind boggling.  It spells out the doctrine simple so everyone can understand but has it flow in this implicit majestic manner when thought about philosophically. And the emphasis on the name "The living", it's again, something I would expect God to do. The fact that no other religion does it and makes you think about it, and this was before, the whole philosophical schools that surround it came about, is something that I personally find to be truth from God, because it's what I expect of God yet I don't find it anywhere else. It shows God favors reason and rewards it, through his revelations. Another thing is how much Quran emphasizes on to reflect with both the mind and heart. This is something I would expect of God to do, but something I find missing in other revelations. Also the emphasis to not follow what you have no knowledge of and to bring your proof if you are truthful, I find something uniquely emphasized in the revelation of Mohammad.

I think you should spend more time discussing such things with the deluded Christians.  Some of them need the kind of help that you can provide.

[Neo-Scholastic]

The arguments support Christianity because Christianity is true. But they do not support the other religions because those religions are false.

<rimshot!>

Back to Christian class clown for Chad I guess.

I swears there are multiple users on Chad's account. The class clown version must have more time on his hands lately as he is getting most of the air time.

You guys are soooo easy to punk.

[JesusHChrist]

<rimshot!>

Back to Christian class clown for Chad I guess.

I swears there are multiple users on Chad's account. The class clown version must have more time on his hands lately as he is getting most of the air time.

You guys are soooo easy to punk.

Who you calling a punk?!?

See, the problem is the whole Poe thing. It is truly hard to distinguish serious batshittery from punky batshittery. 

If true, I'll give you a well-played sir!

[Mystic]

Here is what I find makes Islam the true religion:

1) If God would reveal a book, we would expect the literature level to be at the very least the best in it's language, and no other work to be known to be near it's level, we find this the case with Quran, where it it's literature eloquence is a highest peak, something I have not found emphasized to be true in other religions let alone manifest and agreed upon by it's people it has been revealed to in general.  

The argument is as follows:

If God would reveal a book, it being higher in eloquence and top literature quality is to be expected to be emphasized by that people to that the extent it is used to show it's from God as it is would believed to be way better then human capability.
This is true only of Islam.
If God exists, he would reveal a book. (I've argued why I believe this to be the case in other threads).
God exists. (Not arguing this here, but I've argued why before I believe this)
Therefore Islam is true.

2) God's Name manifests and reminds of a praise of special love and relationship with his exalted chosen friends. The only religions I find manifests this wisdom of his chosen friends is Islam or offshoot religions of Islam (like Bahais). However, I believe all offshoots of Islam have been proven through their own literature to be false. I would expect God to emphasize on this wisdom of how he would use his friends and honor them, and make them the means towards him, to be something emphasized in the true religion with regards to God. I would expect emphasis to be on them to be pure, exalted, and way higher above and chosen above the rest of creation. If we logically deduce God would create infinite creation, and test them out of his wisdom before physically creating them, with regards to their love and sincerity towards him, he would then have exalted friends to chose from. 

3) Ultimate leader would be one who leads you to God and guides you to him in all stages, while Prophets are all leaders that guide to God, the Quran unique emphasizes on a leadership that is aside from leading simply by reminders in the physical world. It emphasizes that after being found to be patient and reaching stage of certain in God's signs and guidance, their was those servants who never having been unjust are worthy of such leadership and guiding companionship to humanity. The emphasis there is such a guide in each era is uniquely found in Islam. The power of these exalted humans, which is God's Command over creation vested in them, is emphasized uniquely in this religion. The mystical science of the return and guidance by the hand of connectors from the chain hearts to the absolute eternal, is of now of the known wisdom and knowledge of this era. The religion that uniquely emphasized on this role thus be the true religion.

4) I find the emphasis on God's Name and face in creation to be something once understood, a treasured knowledge, that opens up many doors of knowledge. The emphasis on such station with God and his creation, and the connection, is something I would expect God to do. I find this emphasis unique in my religion, and hence, due to believing God is true, have reason to believe this religion is from him. 

5) I find the emphasis on ascending with regards to Salah (the connection/five daily prayers) to be something of a wisdom that once experienced you come to know this spiritual routine and exercise would be something worthy of the God and beloved of the hearts to do, him being the ultimate treasure and favor on humanity, we would expect him to advise and emphasize on such ascension and daily exercise. The wisdom of ruku (bowing) before Sujood (prostration), the wisdom and experience of each, the philosophy of wuthoo (ritual purification), is something once understood, you would expect from the Creator. 

6) The way God has put the family of Mohammad in Quran, yet there is high opposition to them, I feel is only really explained if some forces on humanity don't want people to follow the Quran, and hypocrisy (believing but then acting against his revelation) is something only dark forces want, and dark forces would only put this effort if the family of Mohammad were meant to be followed.   The fact there is these veils and locks on the hearts when it comes to reciting the clearer of the recitations that are proven by reason and other parts of Quran as well, makes you realize there is this dark force. These locks are not normal things that happen to other books, nor is it simply explained by bias. I found these locks to be on my heart without this bias, and I realize this is due to a hidden enemy and it was only through sincere striven reflection I was able to overcome these locks but these reflection were like almost like inspired when in certain states, and I find therefore it is of unseen help from God and his forces.

7) The emphasis on the true theology proven by reason as well as the name al-hayu (The living) is something I would expect of God. I find this emphasis again only in my religion.

8) The emphasis to reflect, and bring proof if we are truthful, and to not follow what we have no knowledge of, and not to follow our fathers blindly, I find emphasized in the religion I follow uniquely.  This again something I would expect of God.

In all these arguments, I believe God and his praiseworthy nature to a degree is known in humanity.

[Neo-Scholastic]

September 11, 2001.

[Crossless2.0]

September 11, 2001.

Cue the Muslim version of No True Scotsman . . .

[Pyrrho]

September 11, 2001.

Crusades, Inquisition, Salem witch trials, etc.