Why Christianity?

[Shuffle]

Appearently you've only ever ask kids in high school or coming out of a sunday school class who don't know, (their are those that yoopung who do.)
Because their is a real simple answer to your question, which basically asks: how do you know God is not a false God like the others.
(I'm assuming you know why a FALSE god could not create anything)
So how do we know God is real?
Because in the bible their is a set of instructions for those looking to find God. Follow the instructions and you will be able to directly two communicate to God. God will validate Himself if you can follow said instructions.

The responses from kids and adults are stunningly similar, by the way. 
So if the set of instructions are SO clear, why are there thousands of denominations of Christianity, and thousands of other religions. You would think that such a clear message wouldn't be clouded by such false ones... right?

 None of the other gods have called me, the God of creation did, I answered and found Him to be real and true to what He has said. It's amazing how quite the other gods are, you would believe they would want to steal followers if they were real, you know offering more than the others.

You sound like you would be a great atheist if you were one, based on your last sentence. You understand that, instead of most of the gods being quite to me, all of them are. This reminds me of what Dawkins said, "We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." Could you please explain what you mean by, "... you know offering more than the others?" Do you mean that you will believe in anything that promises a better goody bag?

I haven't thoroughly investigated all the other religions.  Have you?  You can't compare them with christianity unless you've studied them all.  I've found the truth and this is where I want to be.

Even if I support your cowardly notion that Christianity is the truth and the only truth, which denomination is it. As stated by vorlon13, there are over 40,000 denominations of Christianity. Proving Christianity is better than all the other religions is 1/40,003 of the battle.

You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this it true then all other religions are incorrect.

The verbal diarrhea you spew is astounding! 

September 11, 2001.

I really wish you could delete comments on your own thread, because, if i could, yours would only exist in our distant memories.

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But I guess if you had been brought up in Jerusalem or Bagdad or Mumbai, you would have been provided with a different phone number. And you would have probably felt the same.

Nope, you should read more carefully, God called me. Like I've said I do not live on speculation of what might have been, it's a waste of time. What has happened has happened and I'm glad of it, you should remember that I don't speculate I'm tired of having to remind you of this.

Could you please stop signing your username on the bottom of your posts? It is a nuisance to delete it every time. How are you proud enough of your posts to sign them anyway? You should have read abaris' post more carefully, because it clearly says that you would have not been "called" by the same god if you were born in a less Christian country then you were.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

One thing I find unique in my religion is how Quran coupled with it's divinely appointed interpreters (the family of Mohammad) explained the name/face of God.  This divine knowledge and emphasis seems to be missing in all religions. I can make a thread about this. Another thing is how the holy book emphasizes on that God is "The Living", while philosophy just caught up with this aspect of God's unique status and proof of unique divinity, as well, as the nature of creation with respect to the Creator. Another thing is the sequence of Suratal Ikhlaas is mind boggling how philosophically it flows. 

Through God's Name/face we come to know he is the ultimate being worthy of worship, as such his attributes and names must be pointing and describing one, because God's name in reality is light with all light, and point's to a united glory/essence that unites all perfections, and he must be One as to be the ultimate God it must be perfect absolutely such that it unites all perfections without deficient attributes, so all this attributes are referring back to one essence. And as he is One, he must hollow/sheer existence, such that he contains within himself nothing else but himself without compound or parts. And as he is One and Sheer existence without parts, he cannot repeated so he doesn't beget nor is begotten or he wouldn't be sheer existence/hollow or one, because the ultimate existence would be formed of parts. And such nothing is his equal.

Stop deluding yourself.  There is no real "God" of any kind in this solar system.  Everything you think you know about your favorite deity you learned from a con man.  

One thing is absolutely true and that is no god of any kind has ever done anything godly since the first con man told his stupid superstitious buddies about his imaginary deity.  People are basically superstitious twits and for the most part are totally incapable of rational thought.  They love believing in outrageous lies and the more fanciful the lie is they more ardently they will believe it.  And when it comes to imaginary beings such as gods they tend to swallow the whole lie without a nanosecond of rational thought.  

Nitwits think that their favorite deity is real because some ancient imaginary characters wrote a lot of unsubstaniated BS about them in some book of ethnocentric fairy tales.  It's silly beyond belief.  There's zero evidence that such characters actually existed themselves.  There's absolutely zero evidence that the deities that they made up exist.  And it's absolutely insane that anyone recorded their alledged conversations word for word.  

Stop being stupid.  It's hard to do when you are suffering from the mental illness of religious BS but it's possible to step back from the cliff of total insanity if you try to start thinking for yourself.  All religious fairy tales are pure lies.  Once you accept that you can start to cure yourself of stupid superstitions.  I know it's hard do do since you are in a peer pressure culture that prohibits individual thought.  But it seems that you know that your religion is pure BS because you are posting here.  Maybe you can carefully wean yourself away from the lunatics around you and eventually work your way to real freedom.  Right now you are in the dungeon and just see a dim ray of the truth once in a while.  It will be a long and exhausting crawl through the slime of lunacy before you can wash yourself clean in the truth.  You may not ever make it.  But don't stop trying to free yourself.  Good luck.

[Longhorn]

You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

Um. I mean, I agree but like....eh? O_o

[orangebox21]

A question I always ask Christians is, "What arguments do you have to support your beliefs that a Hindu, Jewish, or Muslim does not? In other words, if I accept your notion that the universe must have had a creator, why couldn't it have been Thor or Ba'al? Even if I accept that prayer works, why must it be Yahweh answering them and not Allah or The Flying Spaghetti Monster?"

I agree this is a challenge of natural argumentation.  Even if a person accepts a general deity, how do they know they have the right deity?

A potential inquiry could involve the following:
1.  Does the deity posses the characteristics necessary to be the creator?
2.  A review of mutually exclusive truth claims between the faith's
3.  Disjunctive syllogism

An example of point number 1 would go as follows.  The creation event includes the beginning of time, space, and matter.  Therefore prior to the creation event there was no time, no space, and no matter.  If the  Flying Spaghetti Monster were the creator of the universe, then matter (spaghetti) would exist prior to the existence of matter.  This is a logical impossibility, therefore the Flying spaghetti monster could not be the creator of the universe.

As for number 2.  A comparison of each faith's truth claims can be examined through a review of mutually exclusive truth claims.  In other words, start with any two faith's truth claims and ask, are these two truth claims mutually exclusive or synonymous?  If synonymous they are one and the same; combine the truth claims and subsequent faith's together and proceed.  If the truth claims are mutually exclusive then either claim A or claim B is true.  Eventually you will be left with two choices with mutually exclusive truth claims.  

And that leads to disjunctive syllogism.  Either truth claim A or truth claim B is true.  As an example, one of the truth claims shared by all religions is that man is in a fallen or imperfect state and is in need of salvation/redemption/perfection [a claim atheist's would recognize as well].  To the best of my knowledge, all religions other than Christianity make the claim that salvation/redemption/perfection of man is found in man's own efforts.  In other words, all other religions teach that man is his own redeemer.  Christianity makes a different and mutually exclusive claim.  Namely that you have the forgiveness of sins [salvation/redemption/perfection] through the effort of [God] Jesus Christ.  It is by grace you have been saved, not of works.  So on this specific issue, either Christianity is true or all other religions are true.

Every time I ask any version of these questions I get either radio silence or a quick, sudden change of the topic. Because of my many failed attempts at asking these questions in real life, I decided to ask these questions here.

Are you claiming that a forum isn't 'real life'?  

[Godscreated]

What has happened has happened and I'm glad of it, you should remember that I don't speculate I'm tired of having to remind you of this.

GC

You don't have to remind me. I know what you're saying over and over. It's just that I don't think for a single minute you wouldn't feel the same about any other god if you had been socialised the same way in a different corner of the world.

That's an assumption and that is not reality, I deal with reality.

GC

[abaris]

That's an assumption and that is not reality, I deal with reality.

GC

You're dealing in assumptions too. As far as I know you haven't been born and raised in Bagdad, Jerusalem or Mumbai.

[Godscreated]

You sound like you would be a great atheist if you were one, based on your last sentence. You understand that, instead of most of the gods being quite to me, all of them are. This reminds me of what Dawkins said, "We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." Could you please explain what you mean by, "... you know offering more than the others?" Do you mean that you will believe in anything that promises a better goody bag?

I could never be an atheist, God called and I answered. Well Don't give up yet He could call at anytime. Dawkins always been a moron. I did not exactly come to God for a goody bag, I knew I was lost and desired salvation and before you ask yes I knew eternal life was part of what I wanted. What I meant with some amount of a pun was that there are no other gods because they do not come to steal away Christians.

Nope, you should read more carefully, God called me. Like I've said I do not live on speculation of what might have been, it's a waste of time. What has happened has happened and I'm glad of it, you should remember that I don't speculate I'm tired of having to remind you of this.

Could you please stop signing your username on the bottom of your posts? It is a nuisance to delete it every time. How are you proud enough of your posts to sign them anyway? You should have read abaris' post more carefully, because it clearly says that you would have not been "called" by the same god if you were born in a less Christian country then you were.

No! I do it because I own up to what I say, guess you have to be from east Tennessee to understand. Pride for what I write is not even considered.

I read his statement closely, he called for speculation, I wasn't born somewhere else and I'm glad and there's no sense in wondering about "what is." They change nothing. By the way there are many Christians in non Christian countries.

GC

[Cato]

Does the deity posses the characteristics necessary to be the creator?

It's inconceivable that a being with the power and knowledge to create a universe could possibly be held accountable for the bullshit in The Bible. Genesis doesn't even accurately describe the sequence of events and it's all downhill from there. I never understand why Christians are so hell bent on proving a creator deity. Even if I grant this type of being, which I don't, there is no way in hell you can get from there to the split personality character in your special book.

It's much more honest to say you believe it because you want to instead of going through the machinations required to attempt to make any sense of any of it. It simply can't be done.

[Simon Moon]

The arguments support Christianity because Christianity is true. But they do not support the other religions because those religions are false.

Why don't you discuss this with Mystic Knight? Or one of the other 1.5 billion Muslims. They seem to believe the opposite, without any more or less justification. 

The OP is actually bringing up what is known as "the outsider test for faith".

It's a thought experiment. 

Could any of the best apologists, the various religious texts, the stories of personal experiences that people have from all religions, etc convince an alien from a planet that does not have any religion at all, or any religion similar to those of Earth, that their religion is in fact, the correct one?

[Simon Moon]

And that leads to disjunctive syllogism.  Either truth claim A or truth claim B is true.  As an example, one of the truth claims shared by all religions is that man is in a fallen or imperfect state and is in need of salvation/redemption/perfection [a claim atheist's would recognize as well].  To the best of my knowledge, all religions other than Christianity make the claim that salvation/redemption/perfection of man is found in man's own efforts.  In other words, all other religions teach that man is his own redeemer.  Christianity makes a different and mutually exclusive claim.  Namely that you have the forgiveness of sins [salvation/redemption/perfection] through the effort of [God] Jesus Christ.  It is by grace you have been saved, not of works.  So on this specific issue, either Christianity is true or all other religions are true.

Or they could all be false.

Interesting that you did not include that choice in your dichotomy.