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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:00 pm
To absolve you of your sins I am going to kill myself. (Is not suicide a sin?) But, of course, I cannot really kill myself because I am god, but we can pretend can we not? After all, you are pretending I exist.
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:10 pm
(August 1, 2015 at 12:00 pm)IATIA Wrote: To absolve you of your sins I am going to kill myself. (Is not suicide a sin?) But, of course, I cannot really kill myself because I am god, but we can pretend can we not? After all, you are pretending I exist.
god/jesus committed suicide by cop. He never really died so his sacrifice to humanity is pointless since he never truly died.
This should raise a huge red flag considering god of the bible doesn't give two shits about human life.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:18 pm
I agree, the story makes no sense. Especially to those groups of people who think we are still all born in sin and simple belief in Jesus and this story of sin eradicting sacrifice is what absolves them. Adds another layer of stupidity and cruelty on top.
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:31 pm
(August 1, 2015 at 12:00 pm)IATIA Wrote: To absolve you of your sins I am going to kill myself. (Is not suicide a sin?) But, of course, I cannot really kill myself because I am god, but we can pretend can we not? After all, you are pretending I exist.
Yahweh's a pretty big hyocrite. "It's ok if he does it". That's pretty much what a hypocrite is.
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:32 pm
Quote:I'm more concerned about the idea that killing something innocent can absolve someone of evil actions
Tough on the goats, too.
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:50 pm
The whole thing is totally crazy. Why would God demand a sacrifice of his son, instead of just forgiving people? Why cause unnecessary suffering at all? What is accomplished by killing Jesus?
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:54 pm
He just wants us to know how much he cares about us guys 
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 12:54 pm
(August 1, 2015 at 12:50 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: The whole thing is totally crazy. Why would God demand a sacrifice of his son, instead of just forgiving people? Why cause unnecessary suffering at all? What is accomplished by killing Jesus?
Mysterious ways.
(Aka if you keep asking questions I'll have to threaten you with hell)
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 1:13 pm
(August 1, 2015 at 12:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I'm more concerned about the idea that killing something innocent can absolve someone of evil actions
Tough on the goats, too.
At least the goats get a chance. You either slaughter a sheep on an altar, or you pray over a goat and send it into the wilderness. Goats may have a slim chance, but sheep have none.
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RE: Jesus sacrifice and why it didn't count
August 1, 2015 at 1:19 pm
(August 1, 2015 at 12:50 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: The whole thing is totally crazy. Why would God demand a sacrifice of his son, instead of just forgiving people? Why cause unnecessary suffering at all? What is accomplished by killing Jesus?
Indeed, Jesus 'immortal soul' or 'spirit' thingy would have been 'part of God' for the limited duration of the 'death' experience anyhow.
No one has come forward and claimed Jesus was tormented in Hell in any way have they ??
Did the flames lick His toes ?? Did the demons taunt Him ?? Did Beelzebub violate His anus with his enormous barbed penis ??
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