Why is Faith/Belief a Moral Issue?

[Kingpin]

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"Born of a virgin."  How can you rightly accuse a virgin of fornication?      

What does it mean when Jesus said he did not come to "abolish but to fulfill" the law?

What is the purpose of the law?
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Jesus came to live the sinless life, following God's law, to be the perfect sacrifice for the punishment of all sin.  The verse said the law was in effect until it was accomplished.  The last words uttered by Jesus on the cross were "It is finished." or "It is accomplished".  So the "good news" or "gospel" is that Jesus' work on the cross paid the penalty for ALL.

[abaris]

Jesus came to live the sinless life, following God's law, to be the perfect sacrifice for the punishment of all sin.  The verse said the law was in effect until it was accomplished.  The last words uttered by Jesus on the cross were "It is finished." or "It is accomplished".  So the "good news" or "gospel" is that Jesus' work on the cross paid the penalty for ALL.

OK, once again, since you're all picky choosy when it comes to bible texts.

For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law

Heaven and earth are still there. Very much so. Understand that this isn't meant to be a personal attack, but you all interpret what you're reading in a way of your choosing. Or rather, some theologian has done the interpreting job for you when you were much younger. And since you want it to be true, you take it to be true, without reflecting on that words sometimes mean what they say.

[orangebox21]

@abaris

If you reject lkingpinl's answers, then:

What does it mean when Jesus said he did not come to "abolish but to fulfill" the law?

What is the purpose of the law?

[McDoogins]

I think it's a moral issue because that is the job of religion; to explain a belief in morality.

People disagree with different views about which morality is correct so it becomes synonymous with it's function.

[robvalue]

Jesus wasn't sinless. He killed a kid. They just removed that book from the canon so now it "didn't happen".

[Longhorn]

Sinless? I thought wrath was a deadly sin

[Mudhammam]

@abaris

If you reject lkingpinl's answers, then:

What does it mean when Jesus said he did not come to "abolish but to fulfill" the law?

What is the purpose of the law?

I guess it would depend on whether or not you're asking a Nazarene, a Catholic, or a Gnostic.

[orangebox21]

@abaris

If you reject lkingpinl's answers, then:

What does it mean when Jesus said he did not come to "abolish but to fulfill" the law?

What is the purpose of the law?

I guess it would depend on whether or not you're asking a Nazarene, a Catholic, or a Gnostic.

It would only matter what Jesus meant when he said that he did not come to "abolish but to fulfill" the law.

How would a Nazarene, a Catholic, or a gnostic answer these questions?

[abaris]

In my book it means the Old Covenant is still very much to be taken as law. But I'm no christian, so I got no horse in the race anyway.

It's only that I find it amazing that some christians take parts of both books literally and interpret the hell out of certain passages to make ends meet. That's the classic case of cherry picking.

[Mudhammam]

It would only matter what Jesus meant when he said that he did not come to "abolish but to fulfill" the law.

How would a Nazarene, a Catholic, or a gnostic answer these questions?

Well, as I understand their doctrines, Nazarenes would say that the law absolutely still applies because it was clearly delivered by God in established scriptures and nowhere specifically does he announce, through the proclamations of the prophets or his son, that the law would be abolished during man's continuance on earth. Catholics would say the law is no longer relevant because what the covenant pointed towards in its requirements for faithful obedience has been fulfilled through Christ and replaced by his perfect example of selflessness and gift of salvation. Gnostics would say the Old Testament, in general, was a period of ignorance in which an evil despotic bastard named Jehovah kept men enslaved by superstition and fear, and the revelation of Christ has thrust open the gates of enlightenment. Or, something like that anyway.