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Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Says the person that has spent more than 3 months of his life on here.

What the fuck is your problem?

Seriously, you want beef I'll give it ya.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Shuffle Wrote:
(September 4, 2015 at 12:35 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: At the very top of that page is this disclaimer:


How in the world do you expect to have credibility when you cite a source so shaky that it admits it before you've read the first word? Did you not see that disclaimer? Or -- and this is my suspicion -- you saw it and kept on reading, and once you discovered that the data supported your bias, you decided that the obvious concerns that the editors there have were unfounded?

Sorry, I want impartial data, not cooked books.

Here's what I've found, for America:

This listing by the FBI of attacks going back to 1980 clearly demonstrates that less than 99% of all terrorist attacks in America were committed by Muslims. You'll notice that I went directly to a source which is required by law to collate ALL these statistics.

According to Global Research:


You can read the entire article here.

So on the one hand we have a government source legally bound to collate all the data on these incidents, and on the other we have you waving around a wiki article that is disputed by its own authors. Forgive me for thinking that your argument is horseshit ... but it is.

Ok, sorry. Would you like to peruse this website? http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html

Or this one? http://www.jihadwatch.org/

I can keep linking websites until we find one that you like.

And that pie chart is hilarious! First off, I said DEATHS, not attacks. Secondly, why the fuck is it in America?! Muslims make up 0.2% of America's population. 0.2% is responsible for 6% of terrorist attacks. How is that reasonable?

Firstly, biased sites aren't trustworthy.

Secondly, nowhere did I say that any of those attacks, no matter who perpetrated them, were "reasonable".

Give me unbiased sources, and read what I write and reply to that. I'm not going to bandy words with anyone who wishes to be disingenuous.

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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(September 4, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Says the person that has spent more than 3 months of his life on here.

What the fuck is your problem?

Seriously, you want beef I'll give it ya.

You said I didn't have a life... I am pretty sure that you were asking for it.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 6:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(September 4, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Ok, sorry. Would you like to peruse this website? http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html

Or this one? http://www.jihadwatch.org/

I can keep linking websites until we find one that you like.

And that pie chart is hilarious! First off, I said DEATHS, not attacks. Secondly, why the fuck is it in America?! Muslims make up 0.2% of America's population. 0.2% is responsible for 6% of terrorist attacks. How is that reasonable?

Firstly, biased sites aren't trustworthy.

Secondly, nowhere did I say that any of those attacks, no matter who perpetrated them, were "reasonable".

Give me unbiased sources, and read what I write and reply to that. I'm not going to bandy words with anyone who wishes to be disingenuous.

I said that 99% of DEATHS by terrorism are caused by muslims in the entire WORLD. You preceded to give me stats that showed ATTACKS by terrorism in AMERICA. That is not the same thing. And how are those sites biased. They are giving legitimate accounts of terrorism happening in the world, one by one. You gave me a pie chart.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Shuffle Wrote: You said I didn't have a life... I am pretty sure that you were asking for it.

No I fucking didn't you dumb fuck.

Jesus, you want a rational discussion but can't even fucking read.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Shuffle Wrote:
(September 4, 2015 at 6:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Firstly, biased sites aren't trustworthy.

Secondly, nowhere did I say that any of those attacks, no matter who perpetrated them, were "reasonable".

Give me unbiased sources, and read what I write and reply to that. I'm not going to bandy words with anyone who wishes to be disingenuous.

I said that 99% of DEATHS by terrorism are caused by muslims in the entire WORLD. You preceded to give me stats that showed ATTACKS by terrorism in AMERICA. That is not the same thing. And how are those sites biased. They are giving legitimate accounts of terrorism happening in the world, one by one. You gave me a pie chart.

When you can present unbiased sources, I may well lend you credence. I've read both of those sites at times and found them to be untrustworthy. For instance, they don't count the deaths of Arab civilians caused by Israeli attacks, and that would certainly change your percentage. I wonder why they--and you -- don't count them?

And that wiki has obvious problems that its own editors acknowledge.


What we're left with, then, is an unsupported claim.

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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I said that 99% of DEATHS by terrorism are caused by muslims in the entire WORLD. You preceded to give me stats that showed ATTACKS by terrorism in AMERICA. That is not the same thing. And how are those sites biased. They are giving legitimate accounts of terrorism happening in the world, one by one. You gave me a pie chart.

Look up Europol and FBI statistics on terrorism. A whooping 3 percent of all terrorist attacks are motivated by religion. And that's not even singling out Islam. Get your facts straight - and no, I'm not gonna look these statistics up for you. They're in the public domain and I've posted them here on this very board several times already.

If you're at all interested in doing something else than letting your ass do the talking and browsing some conspiracy sites.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 7:28 pm)abaris Wrote:
(September 4, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I said that 99% of DEATHS by terrorism are caused by muslims in the entire WORLD. You preceded to give me stats that showed ATTACKS by terrorism in AMERICA. That is not the same thing. And how are those sites biased. They are giving legitimate accounts of terrorism happening in the world, one by one. You gave me a pie chart.

Look up Europol and FBI statistics on terrorism. A whooping 3 percent of all terrorist attacks are motivated by religion. And that's not even singling out Islam. Get your facts straight - and no, I'm not gonna look these statistics up for you. They're in the public domain and I've posted them here on this very board several times already.

If you're at all interested in doing something else than letting your ass do the talking and browsing some conspiracy sites.

I am not talking about attacks. Jesus Christ, why are people not getting that?! I am talking about DEATHS. Fuck.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 10:56 am)Napoléon Wrote:
(September 3, 2015 at 9:11 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I love it when people I am having a discussion with just leave without warning. It is a really cool thing to do.

Believe it or not people have lives outside of this forum.

(September 4, 2015 at 7:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(September 4, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Shuffle Wrote: You said I didn't have a life... I am pretty sure that you were asking for it.

No I fucking didn't you dumb fuck.

Jesus, you want a rational discussion but can't even fucking read.

And why are you being so mean? I agree with 90% of the things that you have said in this thread. We give kudos to the same posts. Just because you have now found an atheist that disagrees with you on a single point, you cuss him out and say he can't read.

It really hurts my feelings.
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(September 4, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I am not talking about attacks. Jesus Christ, why are people not getting that?! I am talking about DEATHS. Fuck.

Based on fucking what? That two steaming piles of website you posted?
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