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Job posting: Deity
#11
RE: Job posting: Deity
Yeah, they are mandated to, but they don't.

There's no need to "raise your kid atheist", simply not indoctrinating them into religion and teaching them how to think will almost certainly produce an atheist anyhow.
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#12
RE: Job posting: Deity
(September 5, 2015 at 3:39 am)robvalue Wrote: Yeah, they are mandated to, but they don't.

There's no need to "raise your kid atheist", simply not indoctrinating them into religion and teaching them how to think will almost certainly produce an atheist anyhow.
Yeah but religion has centuries of experience when it comes to sucking people in. I know that if I have kids I will make it no secret I hate religion and why.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#13
RE: Job posting: Deity
Oh sure, explaining the problems with religion is fine. What I meant was that I don't believe most atheists indoctrinate their kids that there "is no God", the way some theists seem to think we would. Pointing out the lack of coherence and evidence is fine, though.
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#14
RE: Job posting: Deity
(September 4, 2015 at 7:07 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: A friend of mine home-schools her children.  Unlike most, she home-schools them to keep them away from religion.  She is part of a small group of Atheist home-schoolers, and the children meet for regular field trips to museums, etc., which gives them some socialization.  Most of the mothers/teachers have the minimum of an Education Bachelors, and they seem to be doing a lovely job.

In a group writing assignment, they were asked to provide a Job Posting ad, searching for somebody who exists in current myth (superhero, vampire, witch, Santa, Easter Bunny, etc.) and describe the job we need them to fill.  They had to provide a minimum of 3 tasks needed for the interview, and 3 for the job.   

14-year-old Layna just e-mailed me this.  I think it's pretty fun, and well crafted for a 14-year old.  What do you guys think?     Smile

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Job Opening: Deity
Employer:  Earth (3rd planet from Sol, Outer arm, Milky Way Galaxy)
Qualifications: Proficiency in healing, teleportation, psy abilities, omniscience and omnipotence. Applicant must be a dynamic public speaker, as the job is primarily public relations.   Gender, race, species unimportant. 
 
Interview:  the applicant should be prepared to:
1)  Provide proof to the human race regarding the existence or non-existence of a “soul”.  
          1a)  If the soul is proven to exist, provide a clear description of what happens to that entity after human death.
2)  Perform an instantaneous healing.  Test subject will be provided by the search committee.
3)  Demonstrate teleportation skills.
4)  Provide convincing evidence of fairness of judgement and a benevolent nature.
5)  Provide governing bodies of countries with a foolproof means of banishing you from office should you ever behave in any manner that is harmful to humankind.
 
Job Description:
Travel:  public speaking tours.  Publicly bestow health and peace upon caring humans who work to better humanity.  Publicly administer punishment to all corrupt clergy and politicians.  Protect those who are defenseless.  Work occasional miracles.   (Examples:  provide assistance re: drought, famine, disaster, etc.)  Permanently, worldwide, eradicate religious conflict, poverty and hunger, and all types of violent crime.   
 
Salary:  Fame, plus a 1% earnings tithe from every employed human being.
 
Start date:  Immediate
Heart breaking...

She obviously wants more than the spiritual guidance her mother can provide, but doesn't know where to get it, and if the Mother is home schooling to keep her from religion despite what the child may want for herself... Well that's the heart breaking part.

once the child reaches the age of accountability why not let him/her choose for themselves?
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#15
Job posting: Deity
Does anyone else hate sun flowers now?
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#16
RE: Job posting: Deity
(September 4, 2015 at 7:07 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: ...
Qualifications: ... omniscience and omnipotence. ...
 
Interview:  the applicant should be prepared to:
...
5)  Provide governing bodies of countries with a foolproof means of banishing you from office should you ever behave in any manner that is harmful to humankind.
 ...

I neglected to mention in my earlier post that the above are incompatible with each other.  It is logically impossible to overpower an omnipotent being, and so it would necessarily be impossible to force an omnipotent being "from office."  Any being that can be forced to do anything is, by definition, not omnipotent.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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#17
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It seems that having contradictory attributes is also one of the job criteria though, if popular religions are any example Tongue She just missed that part out I think.
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#18
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(September 5, 2015 at 12:37 pm)robvalue Wrote: It seems that having contradictory attributes is also one of the job criteria though, if popular religions are any example Tongue She just missed that part out I think.

LOL - I missed that part too!  An omnipotent Deity would be unstoppable.  I was just impressed that a 14-yr-old saw a need for a check and balance system.  I'm collecting responses for her, and will find a fun way to point out that inconsistency.   Thanks guys!
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#19
RE: Job posting: Deity
Impregnate a Virgin wasn't part of the job.

Guess I'm off to the next one.

Wink
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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#20
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(September 5, 2015 at 11:12 am)KUSA Wrote: Does anyone else hate sun flowers now?

Nah.  I don't blame sunflowers because drippy is a fucking moron.  Not their fault.
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