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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:30 pm
I'm glad I don't have to deal with this as I'm not a parent. My inclination would be no but then you have him/her telling the other school kids and their parents getting upset.
I'm glad there is a whole lot about parenting I'm glad I don't have to deal with.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:34 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:30 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I'm glad I don't have to deal with this as I'm not a parent. My inclination would be no but then you have him/her telling the other school kids and their parents getting upset.
I'm glad there is a whole lot about parenting I'm glad I don't have to deal with.
I had to deal with that about god so I added Santa in. I told my kids that some people like to think their fairytales are real and it's better to let them believe so we don't hurt their feelings.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:34 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:30 pm)Losty Wrote: I don't think it's necessarily wrong, but let me tell you, children have vivid imaginations. I prefer to let my kids invent their own fairytales. I try not to ever lie to my kids.
I used to think these particular woods we always drove by were the enchanted forest lol. I remember when I was like 4 getting really mad one saturday afternoon because I kept telling my parents I wanted to go to the enchanted forest and they had no idea what I was talking about.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:35 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 9:24 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Started the Santa thing at age 2. He grew out of it by age 5.
Five?? Wow, haha smart kid. I think I was 8 when I realized. Maybe not 5, could have been 6. Questions started, no chimney (how getting in), no snow (why a sleigh), rain deer (how do they fly), multiple Santa's around town that didn't look the same (then which one is real). Plus he had older cousins that I'm sure clued him in.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:36 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My siblings and I were all taught about Santa, and the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy lol. I don't think it's "wrong" or anything, but I definitely don't plan on teaching my kids. I don't want them to get disappointed or upset with me for "lying" to them when they find out the truth lol.
Too bad. It could be a spring board for questioning other things you tell them about.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:36 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:36 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 9:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My siblings and I were all taught about Santa, and the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy lol. I don't think it's "wrong" or anything, but I definitely don't plan on teaching my kids. I don't want them to get disappointed or upset with me for "lying" to them when they find out the truth lol.
Too bad. It could be a spring board for questioning other things you tell them about.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:38 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My siblings and I were all taught about Santa, and the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy lol. I don't think it's "wrong" or anything, but I definitely don't plan on teaching my kids. I don't want them to get disappointed or upset with me for "lying" to them when they find out the truth lol.
You do not need the quotation marks around the word "lying." Unless you believed in Santa yourself, telling your children that Santa is real fits the standard definition of the word perfectly.
See:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini.../lie#lie-2
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ll#lying-2
It might be that you are so used to people lying about this that you feel like it must be something other than lying. It isn't.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:38 pm
If I ever have kids, I wouldn't mind my kids knowing about Santa, though I'd definitely make sure they knew it was a guy in a suit.
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:38 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (September 7, 2015 at 9:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: My siblings and I were all taught about Santa, and the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy lol. I don't think it's "wrong" or anything, but I definitely don't plan on teaching my kids. I don't want them to get disappointed or upset with me for "lying" to them when they find out the truth lol.
You do not need the quotation marks around the word "lying." Unless you believed in Santa yourself, telling your children that Santa is real fits the standard definition of the word perfectly.
See:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini.../lie#lie-2
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ll#lying-2
It might be that you are so used to people lying about this that you feel like it must be something other than lying. It isn't.
It's a fairy tale for kids, to make it more fun for them. While I don't plan on doing it with my kids, I understand that it's all in the spirit of the magic of childhood, and thus harmless. So I'm not going to accuse these good parents of lying.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Teaching your kids about Santa Clause
September 7, 2015 at 9:44 pm
(September 7, 2015 at 9:30 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I'm glad I don't have to deal with this as I'm not a parent. My inclination would be no but then you have him/her telling the other school kids and their parents getting upset.
I'm glad there is a whole lot about parenting I'm glad I don't have to deal with.
It was not much of a problem. When I first said to a true believer or two that Santa was not real, the reaction I got from the children taught me very quickly to keep my mouth shut. People [irrationally] blame the bearer of bad news for whatever bad thing it is, and so I learned that trying to teach people the truth is a thankless task for which one gets punished. They also were not apt to take my word for it, but got hostile at the mere suggestion that Santa might not be real.
As for the other parents, fuck them. They are goddamned liars who take pleasure in lying to children who are dependent upon them. They deserve to be made upset.
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