Abortion is love

[Godscreated]

I've said all that's needed on this ridiculously sickening subject, anyone with a logical and common sense mind can see what's wrong with the OP, those who can't need to get help quickly.

GC

[robvalue]

GC: You are being sickened by the logical conclusions of your own belief system and have thus totally proved my point. If your beliefs differ from those I have implied, or if I have made a mistake in my logic, please point it out.

 I did when I said you were a sick individual, you wouldn't accept what the Bible says on this ridiculous illogical sickening crap. How do I know this, I've shown you before what the Bible says on subjects and you've always rejected what is clearly stated.

GC

This isn't an answer, it's another dodge. Of course I'm not suggesting people actually kill their children. I'm pointing out the best course of action for people who have heaven/hell kind of beliefs.

Is it in the best interests of a fetus/baby to go straight to heaven and lose all possible risk of going to hell?

What is the point of their finite life you could allow them, when wagered against a possible eternity in hell?

Of course your book says "don't kill" but I'm asking people to think for themselves. It says all kinds of things that Christians don't follow all the time. Tell me why it's not in the best interests of a child to kill them.

My opinion is that people have enough of a reasonable doubt that the baby won't in fact go anywhere after it's dead, that they don't dare risk it. I can't see any other reason, when the immortal soul of your child is in the balance.

Continue to insult me or actually rebut me, up to you.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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What robvalue is suggesting follows logically from what many Christians claim.

There's nothing logical about it, he used no logic, only a lot of nonsense. Taking what the Bible says, he posted nothing but illogical contradicting statements.

Many claim (contrary to the Bible) that children go to heaven if they are killed.  If that were true, then killing them would be doing them a favor.

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The commandment "Thou shall not murder," is one of many reasons that kind of illogical thought is sick.

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 It is the Christians who have the sick, twisted beliefs that entail what robvalue is suggesting.  And robvalue is wanting them to think about their sick beliefs; he is not wanting people to murder their children.

What twisted belief, that children who die before they come to an understanding about purposely sinning against God. Yeah that really sounds twisted. I don't think he would want parents killing their children, to suggest such a thing is sick, Christians know that killing them would be against God's will for the child, Christians are the ones using logical thought, robvalue is trying to make a mockery of what we believe, may God have mercy on him and you to if you believe what he posted.

Of course, the Bible clearly states that one must have faith in Jesus, and infants do not because they are incapable of thinking such things.  But that is irrelevant to the idiot Christians who claim that they go to heaven.  If children did go to heaven, then killing them would be doing them a favor.

I see you are as sick, you need help just as badly. Parents are not in authority to decide for their children when it comes to salvation, that is a personal decision only a individual can make. By the way your knowledge of the scriptures is very lacking, there will be those in heaven that never heard of Christ. If you and others had a lick of sense you would study the Bible before making fools of yourselves, though I'm pretty sure you would anyhow.

GC

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Maybe you're forgotten that the First Commandment told the Israelites to invade other people's land, destroy their religious artifacts, kill them, and steal their land.  And as soon as Moses had it he immediately killed 3,000 dummies in his herd just because they wanted their own religion.  

Don't forget Jephthah who killed his daughter because he made a silly vow to God.  God loved it.

Then throw in the countless genocides that the Israelites/Hebrews/Jews committed against their peaceful neighbors.

And God killed his own son, at least for a couple of hours, supposedly to save your soul (but only if you're a Jew according to the fairy tale).

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Agree, it is sick man!
The sickest part is it's all an extrapolation of the bible!

All it means is that the barbaric goat shaggers who wrote the bible had very low morals in their day...
We have all evolved since then, except well, the bible?  It's stuck on ver 1.0

 The Bible never says parents should kill their children so they can go to heaven, only sick illogical people like rodvalue can claim such a ridiculous view.

GC

He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. Exodus 21:15

He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. Exodus 21:17

Admittedly there's nothing about going to heaven in the above verses, it's just good ol' uncomplicated murder.

Oh Christians, so easy to muddle them up with their own bible. ^_^ Let's not start throwing out notions of ridiculous views GC before we have to start examining again the notion of make believe in a zombie jew that took 3 days to respawn.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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Agree, it is sick man!
The sickest part is it's all an extrapolation of the bible!

All it means is that the barbaric goat shaggers who wrote the bible had very low morals in their day...
We have all evolved since then, except well, the bible?  It's stuck on ver 1.0

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 The Bible never says parents should kill their children so they can go to heaven, only sick illogical people like rodvalue can claim such a ridiculous view.

GC

God loves few things more than killing babies.  It's one of his favorite activities.

Hosea 9:12 (CEV) = "Even if you do have children,
I will take them all
    and leave you to mourn.
I will turn away,
and you will sink down
    in deep trouble."


That God character is one merciless baby killer.  Who would want to spend eternity with such a monster?

Hosea 9:11-14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...JV;WEB;CEV

[robvalue]

So, is GC saying that murdered babies don't go to heaven? Where do they go then? Are they robbed of the chance of heaven because someone kills them before they hear about Jesus?

[djokica8]

If murdered babies go to hell, than idea of your god is SICK.
If they go to heaven but you say that we shoudnt kill, then why people from bible and 'god' himself was doing it.
And if they dont go anywhere, like eternal nothing, than its not killing becouse thats not yet life (otherwise they would go somewhere).

[Napoléon]

Purgatory!

[Redbeard The Pink]

Agree, it is sick man!
The sickest part is it's all an extrapolation of the bible!

All it means is that the barbaric goat shaggers who wrote the bible had very low morals in their day...
We have all evolved since then, except well, the bible?  It's stuck on ver 1.0

 The Bible never says parents should kill their children so they can go to heaven, only sick illogical people like rodvalue can claim such a ridiculous view.

GC

No, it just says to kill them if they're, like, snotty and stuff. Can't be havin' mouthy kids around...

[KUSA]

To be honest Rob, most women are already pretty loving...

https://reason.com/archives/2004/12/22/i...chiefly-by

between 60 and 80 percent of all naturally conceived embryos are simply flushed out in women's normal menstrual flows unnoticed

Or mass murderers depending on who you ask.

God is a lonely pedophile so he flushes them straight to heaven to give him sexual pleasure. The younger the better. He doesn't even care if they are formed all the way.