(September 11, 2015 at 2:54 pm)CristW Wrote: 2. The declaration and belief in NO GOD(s) is Atheism.
Yes, and atheism is also a lack of belief in god(s).
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
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 Yes, and atheism is also a lack of belief in god(s). 
You can be an atheist and believe in any kind of weird shit you like so long as it's not gods
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (September 11, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Beccs Wrote: You can be an atheist and believe in any kind of weird shit you like so long as it's not gods I have an image of some hot chick walking around at Comicon with a shirt that says, "I believe in dragons, fairies, orcs, and Klingons... but that Christian over there just told me some shit that's just plain CRAZY!" 
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. 
I don't personally believe in souls, but it is completely possible for people to believe in souls and be atheists.
Atheism is just the lack of belief in a God. That is all. ![[Image: atheist_stereotypes_by_uchihakaito-d4yng2u.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=img01.deviantart.net%2F9be6%2Fi%2F2012%2F125%2Fb%2Fc%2Fatheist_stereotypes_by_uchihakaito-d4yng2u.png)
 (September 11, 2015 at 4:28 pm)Shining_Finger Wrote: I don't personally believe in souls, but it is completely possible for people to believe in souls and be atheists.Exactly. You could claim that a soul evolved naturally, just like physical living things. If nature created it, you don't a god and therefore could still be an atheist.  (September 11, 2015 at 2:25 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Ah yes, the ancient alien homeopathy visitation conspiracy theory ![[Image: qxaao.jpg]](https://i.imgflip.com/qxaao.jpg)
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear. RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 11, 2015 at 9:22 pm
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(September 11, 2015 at 4:12 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(September 11, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Beccs Wrote: You can be an atheist and believe in any kind of weird shit you like so long as it's not gods Are you trying to tell me Dragons and Klingons aren't real?? How then do you explain all the books and movies with Klingons in them? Or the Klingon language? Or how I've killed many dragons in Skyrim? Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" (September 11, 2015 at 9:22 pm)Beccs Wrote:(September 11, 2015 at 4:12 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I have an image of some hot chick walking around at Comicon with a shirt that says, No no no, I'm trying to tell you that they are real. Re-read the shirt! As you say, we have evidence in book format, and I have personally interacted with them in my imagination many times. Only the Christians believe in really CRAZY things, like talking snakes and donkeys, and an invisible and a "Loving Lord of All Goodness" whom their stories make sound so despotic, genocidal, and rape-y that Sauron and Melkor look like cubscouts by comparison. Like I said, dragons I can believe... but the Christians are just plain NUTS!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love. 
I need evidence of the soul, first.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (September 10, 2015 at 11:32 pm)CristW Wrote: I really had to ask. This is truly a Litmus Test of whether someone is an Atheist. Let you all know there is a so-called "atheist" who truly believes that there is a "soul". I agree that if there is a "soul" then there is a Divine source (Plato/Socrates). However, as it has been proven...virtues do not derive from a "soul" so this destroys the Nihilist claim (The Plato argument concerning Gorgas' philosophical nihilism which has been converted into a modern social/political construct). I always thought that "soul" meant something different. In literature for example, I always hear people use the word "soul", but they usually mean something different from a literal "soul"....to them soul means "personality".... or to them it means what make a person a human-being...being compassionate, having empathy, etc. |
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