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Saint Peter's Bones
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(September 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I don't know enough about St. Peter's bones to opine.  But anyone who bothers to look at the proportions of the body depicted on the shroud of Turin knows it's a fake.  No real person has those proportions, but art made at the time it first surfaced did.  Surely if Jesus were monstrously out of proportion to the extent of being a freak of nature, someone would have mentioned it?  It's not even as if it's a genetic defect commonly found or recognized it's not.  No one has those proportions.  It's as if the shroud first came to light ten or fifteen years ago in Japan and had the huge eyes and bodily proportions of anime cartoons.

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If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Didn't carbon dating prove that the shroud was from around the 1300s? Which would have been about 1300 years too late. Someone even duplicated the efforts using only material that would have been available at the time (much unlike a certain other project of building the ark.)

I'm not sure why people try to defend the shroud so strongly. If it's not legitimately the burial cloth, wouldn't you want to know? Or would you rather believe it is, when it isn't?
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Chemical analysis established that the S of T originated from the Middle Ages. When those test results are overturned by new data that fits into the timeline in which Jesus lived, it will deserve further consideration by serious people.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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Israeli archaeologist, Shimon Gibson, found an actual first century shroud in an actual tomb in Jerusalem.  Oddly, it is consistent with the bible bullshit which noted separate wrappings and not one big piece of cloth.

Of course, all that demonstrates is that whoever wrote the so-called gospel of john knew more about jewish burial procedures than 13th century jackasses in France.  Not that any of it matters one way or the other.
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Yes can you imagine the "coincidence" that popes sat for centuries on St. Peter's face and that they just happen to find his bones there? Coincidence - no way, it's the work of the male gay deity.

Seriously the Shroud of Turin was proved to be fake by Carbon dating as produced in medieval times, and its image of Jesus has been reproduced by an Italian chemist using materials available in medieval Europe. Nevertheless popes endorse it, including "everyone's favorite asshole" Pope Francis.

But that's what you get with those people that want to believe without evidence. Just remember 2012 when, a statue of Jesus in Mumbai began oozing water from its feet. It was proclaimed “holy water,” and many Chatolics started drinking it and was seen as a miracle, and hundreds of Catholics flocked to worship the image. Then the Indian rationalist Sanal Edamaruku discovered that the “miracle” was due to faulty plumbing: blocked drainage of a nearby toilet caused the statue to wick fecal emerging at Jesus’s feet. Which only outraged Catholic Church causing Edamaruku to be indicted for violating Indian laws against hurting religious sentiments. He fled the country to avoid jail, a refugee from superstition!!
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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