Saint Peter's Bones

[Randy Carson]

What books about the Shroud have you read, Jenny?

I just used a ruler.  That is sufficient.  That's not a human head.

Ah. So, you've not been to Turin? Not measured the Shroud up close and in person? Not earned a degree in the many science disciplines that were represented by the commissions which did the studies?



I quoted a dozen or so scientific studies which have concluded that the Shroud is anatomically flawless and you question it with a ruler held up to your monitor?

Read. Some. Books.

[Iroscato]

You are not a 'guest' here - nobody is. This is a public discussion forum, and that means people might say some mean words. Boo hoo.

If Min - and presumably me, since I (entirely justifiably) called you a cuntstain - have confirmed the angry atheist stereotype, then you have more than confirmed the Catholic stereotype as a creepy, preening, self-satisfied delusional little twit.

Not to mention plagiariser, staunch paedophilia apologist, passive-aggressive, condescending...I really could go on and on. You are not, however, worth the effort. I will say that this forum has been incredibly accommodating to you, and other boards I frequent would have hoofed you out a good 2000 posts earlier. If you think this is bad, why not sniff around?

You may be right.

You might be one of the angry atheists who lower the standard of the forum.

Yes...I'm almost sure of it.

Kudos to Nestor, btw. He gets it.

I couldn't give a whistling shit if you think I'm angry (and since when did being angry become such a bad thing? There's more than enough reason to be so, a quick read of your detritus can easily confirm this), I'm normally quite easy going and tolerant. You, however, have a special talent for rubbing me up the wrong way, mostly for the above reasons.
I'm not angry, per se - I just find you moderately annoying to entirely repulsive...but entertaining nonetheless.

[Randy Carson]

You may be right.

You might be one of the angry atheists who lower the standard of the forum.

Yes...I'm almost sure of it.

Kudos to Nestor, btw. He gets it.

I couldn't give a whistling shit if you think I'm angry (and since when did being angry become such a bad thing? There's more than enough reason to be so, a quick read of your detritus can easily confirm this), I'm normally quite easy going and tolerant. You, however, have a special talent for rubbing me up the wrong way, mostly for the above reasons.
I'm not angry, per se - I just find you moderately annoying to entirely repulsive...but entertaining nonetheless.

You could change the game by:

1. actually interacting politely with anything that I post demonstrating with logic and reason why I'm wrong in anything that I post.
2. avoiding my threads altogether
3. adding me to your ignore list.

But if I'm entertaining, why not relax and enjoy the show?

[Jenny A]

I just used a ruler.  That is sufficient.  That's not a human head.

Ah. So, you've not been to Turin? Not measured the Shroud up close and in person? Not earned a degree in the many science disciplines that were represented by the commissions which did the studies?



I quoted a dozen or so scientific studies which have concluded that the Shroud is anatomically flawless and you question it with a ruler held up to your monitor?

Read. Some. Books.

Measuring, I can do myself.  And in every image I've seen that forehead is not just a little short it's preposterous.  No human face looks like that.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[Jenny A]

And there are tons of sculpture from the middle ages that makes the same anatomical mistake:



And I didn't need to Google the mistake, just statuary from the Middle Ages to find a bunch.

The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't make this mistake and they learned not to do it in the Renaissance, but about the time the Shroud turned up, not so much.

[Randy Carson]

Your arguments mainly consist of absurd BS from religious nuts.

Then you should have no problem breaking one of them down, line-by-line, and convincing me, by the strength of your own counter-arguments, why they are wrong.

I'll watch for it.

[Randy Carson]

Measuring, I can do myself.  And in every image I've seen that forehead is not just a little short it's preposterous.  No human face looks like that.
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The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't make this mistake and they learned not to do it in the Renaissance, but about the time the Shroud turned up, not so much.

How many books have you read about the Shroud, Jenny? Which titles?

[Jenny A]

Measuring, I can do myself.  And in every image I've seen that forehead is not just a little short it's preposterous.  No human face looks like that.
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The ancient Greeks and Romans didn't make this mistake and they learned not to do it in the Renaissance, but about the time the Shroud turned up, not so much.

How many books have you read about the Shroud, Jenny? Which titles?

Irrelevant.  That head is not human.  It is grossly not.  I gave you a citation for it about three posts back in this thread.  But frankly, that was just looking for confirmation of what my own eyes tell me and a ruler confirms.

How is my measuring different than your laying down and trying to put the arms in the same position as the shroud?

[Randy Carson]