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religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
I'm thinking about adding a paragraph about Phil Robertson http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ph...and-killed and making it an online petition for sending to state and federal level elected officials. opinions? Do you think it would be pointless or possibly even exacerbate existing prejudices without doing anything to curb them, or is it worth trying?
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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
(September 29, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: I'm thinking about adding a paragraph about Phil Robertson http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ph...and-killed and making it an online petition for sending to state and federal level elected officials. opinions? Do you think it would be pointless or possibly even exacerbate existing prejudices without doing anything to curb them, or is it worth trying?

Woooooooooooooow....what a douchebag!

Holy fuck, dude.

Holy Fuckhead.

Wow.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
I'm not at all surprised, Deepthunk.  But then, I was raised Protestant Pentecostal.  These sects pray daily for the return of Christ.  Their idea of Utopia is a world where Jesus has returned, the Antichrist destroyed, and Jesus rules the planet as the ultimate dictator.  In the process of ousting all human governments, Jesus will make the blood run in rivers across the land, and in the plain of Megiddo, blood will rise as high as the horses' bridles.  (They never discuss the idea that Armageddon will be fought on horseback . . . )  They get positively rapturous over the thought of all that blood, and the death of all the unbelievers (non-pentecostal xtians) and all evil human beings.  Their heaven-on-earth is a Theocracy and genocide.  They pray that they will be able to watch the murder of 7+ billion human beings, and then take their places as rulers in the new kingdom.  They are no different from fundamentalist, extremist Muslims in this matter.

Phil Robertson -- go for it, that guy is beyond sick.  I can't believe there wasn't a bigger backlash over his public fantasy of raping and murdering atheists.
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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
(September 24, 2015 at 11:50 am)Deepthunk Wrote: I think what we have in this country is more closely akin to a theocratic autocracy than a democratic republic.

I think this is a vast overstatement of the matter.

Besides, everyone knows we're a plutocracy.

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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
(September 29, 2015 at 2:06 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(September 29, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: I'm thinking about adding a paragraph about Phil Robertson http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ph...and-killed and making it an online petition for sending to state and federal level elected officials. opinions? Do you think it would be pointless or possibly even exacerbate existing prejudices without doing anything to curb them, or is it worth trying?

Woooooooooooooow....what a douchebag!

Holy fuck, dude.

Holy Fuckhead.

Wow.

I know. I've heard that kind of thinly veiled threat many times, but whats truly disturbing is the lack of criminal charges or outcry over the failure to charge him.

Can you imagine what would happen if an atheist threaten Christians that way? They'd be screaming bloody murder and saying its evidence of atheism being evil for years.

but when its our's and our children's lives that get threatened, they act as though its perfectly acceptable and perfectly legal. Civil wars have been fought over that kind of inequity, but were such a small minority we couldn't hope to beat them, so they can openly oppress us without any worry.
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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
I don't think that was a threat, at all. I do think that was a personal fantasy of his, though.

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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
Yeah, I didn't read it as a threat. Just mental masturbation to his idea that atheists are unable to have morals or make moral judgments.

That's part of why I argue so strenuously when they come here making statements along that line.

But to take it to the point of spelling out the details of something like that.

What kind of mind could even think of someth... oh, right.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
(September 29, 2015 at 2:22 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I'm not at all surprised, Deepthunk.  But then, I was raised Protestant Pentecostal.  These sects pray daily for the return of Christ.  Their idea of Utopia is a world where Jesus has returned, the Antichrist destroyed, and Jesus rules the planet as the ultimate dictator.  In the process of ousting all human governments, Jesus will make the blood run in rivers across the land, and in the plain of Megiddo, blood will rise as high as the horses' bridles.  (They never discuss the idea that Armageddon will be fought on horseback . . . )  They get positively rapturous over the thought of all that blood, and the death of all the unbelievers (non-pentecostal xtians) and all evil human beings.  Their heaven-on-earth is a Theocracy and genocide.  They pray that they will be able to watch the murder of 7+ billion human beings, and then take their places as rulers in the new kingdom.  They are no different from fundamentalist, extremist Muslims in this matter.

Phil Robertson -- go for it, that guy is beyond sick.  I can't believe there wasn't a bigger backlash over his public fantasy of raping and murdering atheists.

yeah I think I will go ahead and do that, not right this second but in the near future.

This kind of speaks to an issue I've been thinking about for a while, being the system that religion uses to exalt itself as holy for doing things that anyone can see are evil and immoral.

They've taken many manuscripts written by a verity of people over the course of generations and compiled them all together so that they can point to kindness, and altruism and claim their Jesus was and is the source of it all, then they can turn for example to numbers 31, V. 16-18
14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

with this they can convince their followers that it is goodness for them to commit any horrifying act because they claim Jesus wants them to worship the god of Moses, and if Moses can commit a mass atrocity in the name of god and be exalted as a holy man, then anything they do to a person their religion chooses to hate is automatically cleared as an act of "goodness"

Frankly, at this point in my life the very word "goodness" makes me want to friggen puke. I'm not kidding either, the sound of it or sight of it in text literally makes me feel a bit ill. I'm not joking either, it really does.
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RE: religious discrimination by the reigning majority religion of Christendom
(September 29, 2015 at 3:02 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: Frankly, at this point in my life the very word "goodness" makes me want to friggen puke. I'm not kidding either, the sound of it or sight of it in text literally makes me feel a bit ill. I'm not joking either, it really does.





*ducks and exits quickly*
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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