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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 10:56 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Godschild Wrote: So your going to argue with nutritional experts. Your family member has a problem absorbing B12 that's has nothing to do with the majority of the population. B12 deficiencies are a small problem at least in the developed world. Since you can't prove God didn't create livestock ( by the way you are leaving the Bible and introducing evolution theory), you can't say He didn't intend for man to eat eggs and drink milk. God said only to Adam and Eve that He gave them every plant and tree to eat from in the Garden except for the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This would include the Tree of Life and we haven't any idea what benefits came from it for their physical needs, except for living. After they were thrown out of the Garden their first son raised livestock, why would he do this if their was no use for them.
By your own calculations your above statement is wrong on the number of eggs that are needed to provide enough B12, the body also stores B12 for use when it's not receiving enough on a daily bases, you also left out milk in your equation for a daily supply lowering even further the number of eggs needed daily.
I've proven to you that you are wrong about the Bible and you want recognize it, this isn't my fault it's your's. You went out side of the scriptures to try and prove your point, I stayed inside them and used only scientific facts we know of today to support the Bible's truth.
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No GC it's part of my studies - you're the idiot who's arguing with dieticians. You.can.not.use.N.R.V.'s.to.diagnose.a.nutrient.deficiency.in.individuals. Early diagnosis of vitamin deficiency is difficult, and considered clinically impossible to get 100% right, due to the fact that different people need different levels and deficiency usually develops without any early warning signs.
Humans have existed for 200,000 years or longer, and not a single ancient human bone ever discovered was of a vegetarian (which they can check from the protein composition).
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 10:59 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 5:04 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm)Godschild Wrote: Like I said they do not want Christians proving these things, they believe it would justify Christianity, and they would be correct.
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No, it's in the Qur'an. That means finding those items would justify Islam (as well as Christianity and Judaism). They have every reason to want a story from the Qur'an (as well as the Old Testament on which it is based) to be verified by such a find as the chariots destroyed by Moses/God.
Why in the world would they not want Surah 26:52-67 verified by finding the chariot wheels?!
It would make the Jews a nation coming out of Egypt legitimate with God and the world, they are not going to stand for a legitimate Israel, I really don't want to get into who's God is real on this itwould just take us into an area that's to unsettled.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 11:07 pm
(September 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: He filmed these things, yet you doubt, why, to keep your delusion alive. He never got permission to remove any items from where they laid. The people of those lands do not want the Bible proven, so they do everything to deter the process, something atheist agree with, unfortunately.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 11:14 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 1:32 am)Godschild Wrote: The areas to be searched are in Muslim controlled countries, the Muslims definitely wouldn't want the Bible to be proven correct, it's why they want give Christians access to sites that are Biblical. Wyatt has video of those chariot wheels. Does it take a degree to recognize and video chariot wheels, I don't think so. Wyatt tried to get permission from the governments of many nations but was refused because he's a Christian looking to bring evidence of Bible stories.
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Since you know so much about these videos, perhaps you could link us to them? Or have they all been stolen away and hidden by the evil muslims with the support of the evil atheists to prevent the "Real Truth" (all rights reserved) from coming out?!?
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 29, 2015 at 11:20 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 4:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: just look at the Bible Belt, they're even killing their own selves because they can't agree on what is right and what's not in their own religious book.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 30, 2015 at 1:12 am
(September 29, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 5:04 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: No, it's in the Qur'an. That means finding those items would justify Islam (as well as Christianity and Judaism). They have every reason to want a story from the Qur'an (as well as the Old Testament on which it is based) to be verified by such a find as the chariots destroyed by Moses/God.
Why in the world would they not want Surah 26:52-67 verified by finding the chariot wheels?!
It would make the Jews a nation coming out of Egypt legitimate with God and the world, they are not going to stand for a legitimate Israel, I really don't want to get into who's God is real on this itwould just take us into an area that's to unsettled.
GC
You really don't know much about Islam, do you? I don't mean that as a term of disrespect, but I do mean that the guy is profiting off the average Christian not knowing what Muslims really think, or how they operate. You're telling me that Muslims let thousands of legitimate archaeologists visit and legally dig/research at sites all across the Middle East, let tourists go to their countries for numerous reasons, even to live (in places like Egypt) and attend universities, yet they won't let this one guy go there because they're afraid of what he will find?
Not the legitimate archaeologists... just him? Seriously?
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 30, 2015 at 10:58 pm
(September 30, 2015 at 1:12 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 29, 2015 at 10:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: It would make the Jews a nation coming out of Egypt legitimate with God and the world, they are not going to stand for a legitimate Israel, I really don't want to get into who's God is real on this itwould just take us into an area that's to unsettled.
GC
You really don't know much about Islam, do you? I don't mean that as a term of disrespect, but I do mean that the guy is profiting off the average Christian not knowing what Muslims really think, or how they operate. You're telling me that Muslims let thousands of legitimate archaeologists visit and legally dig/research at sites all across the Middle East, let tourists go to their countries for numerous reasons, even to live (in places like Egypt) and attend universities, yet they won't let this one guy go there because they're afraid of what he will find?
Not the legitimate archaeologists... just him? Seriously?
I have no idea which archaeologists the allow to enter their countries, I do not know any Christian archaeologists that are allowed to search for artifacts. What I'm saying is they do not want Israel to be a legitimate nation that God called out of Egypt, Christians are considered the enemy of Islam and defenders of Israel and they most likely believe that Christian would put a positive edge on anything found, whether it's true or not. I know that Islam shares some of the OT with the Israelites and Christians, as for a study or any meaningful reading no I haven't done so, Christianity is a full time work.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 30, 2015 at 11:10 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Aractus Wrote: [hide Wrote:Godschild pid='1066932' dateline='1443557336']So your going to argue with nutritional experts. Your family member has a problem absorbing B12 that's has nothing to do with the majority of the population. B12 deficiencies are a small problem at least in the developed world. Since you can't prove God didn't create livestock ( by the way you are leaving the Bible and introducing evolution theory), you can't say He didn't intend for man to eat eggs and drink milk. God said only to Adam and Eve that He gave them every plant and tree to eat from in the Garden except for the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This would include the Tree of Life and we haven't any idea what benefits came from it for their physical needs, except for living. After they were thrown out of the Garden their first son raised livestock, why would he do this if their was no use for them.
By your own calculations your above statement is wrong on the number of eggs that are needed to provide enough B12, the body also stores B12 for use when it's not receiving enough on a daily bases, you also left out milk in your equation for a daily supply lowering even further the number of eggs needed daily.
I've proven to you that you are wrong about the Bible and you want recognize it, this isn't my fault it's your's. You went out side of the scriptures to try and prove your point, I stayed inside them and used only scientific facts we know of today to support the Bible's truth.
GC[/hide]
No GC it's part of my studies - you're the idiot who's arguing with dieticians. You.can.not.use.N.R.V.'s.to.diagnose.a.nutrient.deficiency.in.individuals. Early diagnosis of vitamin deficiency is difficult, and considered clinically impossible to get 100% right, due to the fact that different people need different levels and deficiency usually develops without any early warning signs.
Humans have existed for 200,000 years or longer, and not a single ancient human bone ever discovered was of a vegetarian (which they can check from the protein composition).
I also have a B12 deficiency and take a supplement. I wasn't trying to diagnose anything, what I presented showed that people can get enough B12 from eggs and dairy without eating meat. Low B12 is not a killer for people, it does mean some will have health problems, but not all, I do not seem to be suffering from a lower B12 than what's considered to be the norm. You are running farther and farther from what the Bible contains.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 30, 2015 at 11:16 pm
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"I have no idea which archaeologists the allow to enter their countries, I do not know any Christian archaeologists that are allowed to search for artifacts. What I'm saying is they do not want Israel to be a legitimate nation that God called out of Egypt, Christians are considered the enemy of Islam and defenders of Israel and they most likely believe that Christian would put a positive edge on anything found, whether it's true or not. I know that Islam shares some of the OT with the Israelites and Christians, as for a study or any meaningful reading no I haven't done so, Christianity is a full time work."
Yeah, I hate it when people distort the reality of the situation to exonerate themselves and further their fascist agenda.
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RE: Dear Christians: What does your god actually do?
September 30, 2015 at 11:19 pm
(September 30, 2015 at 10:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: (September 30, 2015 at 1:12 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: You really don't know much about Islam, do you? I don't mean that as a term of disrespect, but I do mean that the guy is profiting off the average Christian not knowing what Muslims really think, or how they operate. You're telling me that Muslims let thousands of legitimate archaeologists visit and legally dig/research at sites all across the Middle East, let tourists go to their countries for numerous reasons, even to live (in places like Egypt) and attend universities, yet they won't let this one guy go there because they're afraid of what he will find?
Not the legitimate archaeologists... just him? Seriously?
I have no idea which archaeologists the allow to enter their countries, I do not know any Christian archaeologists that are allowed to search for artifacts. What I'm saying is they do not want Israel to be a legitimate nation that God called out of Egypt, Christians are considered the enemy of Islam and defenders of Israel and they most likely believe that Christian would put a positive edge on anything found, whether it's true or not. I know that Islam shares some of the OT with the Israelites and Christians, as for a study or any meaningful reading no I haven't done so, Christianity is a full time work.
GC
Doesn't God frown on evidence? I mean his whole thing is "Have faith in me or you will go to hell."
You can't have faith in something thats proven. Doesn't that mean the Christian archaeologists are basically trying to condemn everyone to hell?
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