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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 4:39 am
Meh...binny.
Every family has one. He'll grow out of it. ...
In a few decades when things keep going "wrong"
Lucky for him he has a sane aunt!
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 11:43 am
(May 19, 2010 at 3:58 am)tackattack Wrote: I would perhaps for your sake stop saying things like "You nor anyone else will change that." I think that hard line will just encourage futher dissonance.
Why can't I say something like that? This is my nephew. He knows exactly how I am and I know how he is and was. He wasn't always a goody two shoes jesus freak. He was a messed up kid in a lot of trouble, then turned to jesus to make it all better, like a lot of people. His bother did the same thing when he was going threw a divorce except he had more of an attitude of superiority because he accepted jesus and I was going to hell because I didn't. They think they can pray me better. I don't need to be prayed better. I'm fine.
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Binny.
Never feel alone. 75% of my family are as 'far-gone' as your nephew. They do/say much crazier/non-sensical things than you have posted about your nephew. I just have not the time nor want to get to listing all the bat-shit nutty things they have said to me.
I'll give you just one though;
At a restaurant with the family. They have a habit of public demonstrations of their churchiness so normally they all hold hands and pray out loud without concern for those around them. My norm is I scoot me chair back a bit so those on either side of me can hold hands and I sit straight up, head held high until they finish their ritualisms.
One time the head kook tells me there in front of God and everybody "Just because you don't believe in the Kingdom of God doesn't mean you can't pray with us."
HA! What could I say? A million things, but the stupidity of that statement made me just gawk at him with, what I'm sure was, a completely confused look upon my face. All I could muster was a "What?". A confused, double open palmed gesture "What?!"
He looked as if he gave it a moments ponderance and then just ignored me.
Really, I got a million and one of these stories.
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Holy shit. I'd love to hear more
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 12:41 pm
(May 19, 2010 at 12:03 pm)Dotard Wrote: Binny.
Never feel alone. 75% of my family are as 'far-gone' as your nephew. They do/say much crazier/non-sensical things than you have posted about your nephew. I just have not the time nor want to get to listing all the bat-shit nutty things they have said to me.
I'll give you just one though;
At a restaurant with the family. They have a habit of public demonstrations of their churchiness so normally they all hold hands and pray out loud without concern for those around them. My norm is I scoot me chair back a bit so those on either side of me can hold hands and I sit straight up, head held high until they finish their ritualisms.
One time the head kook tells me there in front of God and everybody "Just because you don't believe in the Kingdom of God doesn't mean you can't pray with us."
HA! What could I say? A million things, but the stupidity of that statement made me just gawk at him with, what I'm sure was, a completely confused look upon my face. All I could muster was a "What?". A confused, double open palmed gesture "What?!"
He looked as if he gave it a moments ponderance and then just ignored me.
Really, I got a million and one of these stories.
This sounds really uncomfortable, I feel for you.
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Oh it just keeps getting better. He wrote this to me today:
"This is the will of God: May Your Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven, may you will be done on earth as it is in heaven...in heaven you are completely whole, my lovely aunt, and that is what I pray for you, wholeness, because that is God's will. And I can scientifically explain the entire Bible to you.. one of God's names is Omniscient, which ... See Moremeans All-Knowing Scientist, He is the God of science, not of mans theory's that pose themselves as science. I love you more than you will ever know...HJAAAA HAAAA HAAAa!!!!"
He truly is bat shit crazy.
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 7:50 pm
He's been indoctrinated into the cult. Freeing him would not be an easy task at this point. He has the power of numbers against him, people that are constantly encouraging his delusions. He might snap out of it, eventually. There is always hope.
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 19, 2010 at 7:53 pm
I knew he was heavy into this jesus thing, but I never really understood the scope of his delusion until now. I told him I couldn't pray for him, but I would hope for him
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 20, 2010 at 3:52 am
You can say it to them, I'm just saying I don't think it'll be effective in getting him out of his "delusions". Some of the more fundie, baptists and evangelicals are tought to key in on theese hard lines and it will encourage them to proselytize. I would just word it a little different like from :"You nor anyone else will change that" to: "You're not to convince me with that bullhorn you call a mouth" .. or something like that.
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RE: A look at a piece of my insane family
May 20, 2010 at 4:08 am
I'd have a great time deprogramming a relative like that! #
Ask him the classic "could Jesus heat up a curry so hot he himself could not eat it" line
As it stands there's only two relatives f mine that are still believers, one is my nan who I don't really want to upset or insult, she's lived happily for 80odd years believing in God, I'm sure she'd be insulted someone quarter her age explaining it's all bollocks and you've missed the big picture, whereas at the same time the last few years she's saw the world as a grim place to live and I want to explain to her what gives me comfort that I'm living because of I'm the product of countless generations of winners, a living monument to my ancestors, living alongside all other life which are our cousins, but we Humans are fortunate enough to understand what we are and what's going on.
The other is my 7 year old cousin which my nan has brainwashed into believing in "CHeeeSUS", how can I say it's wrong even though my own logic says it is, plus her speech impediment is priceless
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