The power of prayer

[Reforged]

I have once heard that it was said by God himself and his prophets that prayer is the most powerful example of the religious sense. (or one of the most powerful)

Well, it's true.

The most powerful tool is probably one suggested by the bible already, but one more powerful is a persons natural walk through nature by him/herself. Because he finds in it all of the tools needed to conduct life successfully. But in fear, one finds all of the tools needed to conduct this walk. You tremble when you are afraid of something, you gasp at the necessity of gasping. In trembling (kind of like the book fear and trembling, but not really), you find all of the needed preparation towards taking that next needed step. The goals that you will arrive upon when you reach that next level become clearer to you, you find preservation in needing to know something, your grasp of things becomes clearer.

Prayer is a rational act conducted by us human beings that in no way aligns us with the animals of animal life. Prayer represents all of "Fear and Trembling", but in the most sincere way possible. For to pray, is to know that one prays.

For the christian, this "most treasured dish of God's", we are presented with the finest example there is of human rationality.

Here's to betting that atheists don't pray. Albeit, all of the third paragraph of this OP presents prayer in the light of the super-rational, even the super-supra-rational. I would like to see this become a thread for us christians (and us atheists...) to praise God for this miraculous "gift." We should be rewarded in the light of this final paragraph that, at least we, know the supra-rational.

So Heaven is a place I need to learn to be fearful before I can access it.
Wow, that place sounds like a hoot. Sign me up.

As for the whole "prayer is rational" thing, I'm not going to dignify it. Suffice to say you didn't demonstrate how its rational in any context. That aside; its bait and obvious bait at that.
"supra-rational". I mean, seriously. There is no way you are genuine. People would mock you on even the most christian forums if you were.

I'm not interested in "I can't believe its not crazy". I want real, genuine crazy and you're a poor substitute. Go away.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Prayer is a worthless waste of time.  All scientific studies on prayer have failed.  Time spent on your knees, mumbling to yourself and begging the ceiling for the petition of the day - ugh.

In ancient times people would petition the local bigwig (aka God) for special favors while kneeling.  The ritual has persisted.

http://www.histecon.magd.cam.ac.uk/petit..._fakir.jpg

[TheRocketSurgeon]

I Can't Believe It's Not Crazy™. Hehe.

[brewer]

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at least we, know the supra-rational.

The only supra-rational thing I've ever known came from Toyota. Damn, I liked that car!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra

[Iroscato]

I have once heard that it was said by God himself and his prophets that prayer is the most powerful example of the religious sense. (or one of the most powerful)

Well, it's true.

The most powerful tool is probably one suggested by the bible already, but one more powerful is a persons natural walk through nature by him/herself. Because he finds in it all of the tools needed to conduct life successfully. But in fear, one finds all of the tools needed to conduct this walk. You tremble when you are afraid of something, you gasp at the necessity of gasping. In trembling (kind of like the book fear and trembling, but not really), you find all of the needed preparation towards taking that next needed step. The goals that you will arrive upon when you reach that next level become clearer to you, you find preservation in needing to know something, your grasp of things becomes clearer.

Prayer is a rational act conducted by us human beings that in no way aligns us with the animals of animal life. Prayer represents all of "Fear and Trembling", but in the most sincere way possible. For to pray, is to know that one prays.

For the christian, this "most treasured dish of God's", we are presented with the finest example there is of human rationality.

Here's to betting that atheists don't pray. Albeit, all of the third paragraph of this OP presents prayer in the light of the super-rational, even the super-supra-rational. I would like to see this become a thread for us christians (and us atheists...) to praise God for this miraculous "gift." We should be rewarded in the light of this final paragraph that, at least we, know the supra-rational.

Stahp.

[rexbeccarox]

OP, this is a discussion forum, not one in which it is encouraged to shit and run. I suggest you start *contributing* to your own threads before we start to become suspicious that you don't actually care to discuss anything.

I'm not holding my breath.

[JBrentonK]

Prayer is defined as a rational act. It's because you by definition ask for praise. Therefore, prayer is the act of asking for praise (by definition).

That aside, prayer is a rational activity. It's only possible for human beings to pray to begin with. Because it is a rational manner of conduct. This being the case, it is only natural that scientific studies on prayer have failed. And it is simple enough to say that atheistforums.org would never understand that up til now. But I have just proven that prayer works (scientifically) because by definition prayer is the rational act of asking for praise.

Now, since you get that much, perhaps the thread can continue.

Note that animals don't pray. Do you want to know why? Because prayer is defined as a rational act. It is impossible for an animal to ask in prayer for anything. This is the reason why animals do not pray.

And it's evident that atheists don't pray.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

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at least we, know the supra-rational.

The only supra-rational thing I've ever know came from Toyota. Damn, I liked that car!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra

My first car was a lightened-and-braced/upgraded 85 Toyota Supra MkII, which I converted with the 3.0L 24-valve M7 engine (from the MkIII) running aftermarket twin turbos and aftermarket heads (stock ones were shite). Sucker made 345 rwhp and got 29mpg off-the-turbo at 70mph on the Interstate. Got a lot more gas-guzzly when I put my foot in it, though!

Loved that car.

Sadly, I blew her up racing against a friend of mine on his motorcycle which, ironically, I had upgraded for him.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Prayer is defined as a rational act. It's because you by definition ask for praise. Therefore, prayer is the act of asking for praise (by definition).

That aside, prayer is a rational activity. It's only possible for human beings to pray to begin with. Because it is a rational manner of conduct. This being the case, it is only natural that scientific studies on prayer have failed. And it is simple enough to say that atheistforums.org would never understand that up til now. But I have just proven that prayer works (scientifically) because by definition prayer is the rational act of asking for praise.

Now, since you get that much, perhaps the thread can continue.

Note that animals don't pray. Do you want to know why? Because prayer is defined as a rational act. It is impossible for an animal to ask in prayer for anything. This is the reason why animals do not pray.

And it's evident that atheists don't pray.

My dog most assuredly prayed to me, when he wanted something. He used to crack me up with the antics he would pull, to try to please me enough to grant his begging! Sometimes I would grant his prayers, making me a much more rational god than most humans'.

Begging an invisible friend for favors is a great many things, but rational  is not one of those things.

[Reforged]

Prayer is defined as a rational act. It's because you by definition ask for praise. Therefore, prayer is the act of asking for praise (by definition).

That aside, prayer is a rational activity. It's only possible for human beings to pray to begin with. Because it is a rational manner of conduct. This being the case, it is only natural that scientific studies on prayer have failed. And it is simple enough to say that atheistforums.org would never understand that up til now. But I have just proven that prayer works (scientifically) because by definition prayer is the rational act of asking for praise.

Now, since you get that much, perhaps the thread can continue.

Note that animals don't pray. Do you want to know why? Because prayer is defined as a rational act. It is impossible for an animal to ask in prayer for anything. This is the reason why animals do not pray.

And it's evident that atheists don't pray.

Asking for praise from an invisible, unknowable creature you cannot prove exists is rational huh?

Still not buying it. This is clearly fake lunacy. You're making no effort to cover your bases and leaving yourself clearly exposed to ridicule. You're going to have to try harder to get my time bro.