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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 5:50 am
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There is a lot of evidence for the statement, "If we were intelligently designed, that intelligence was not very good at designing."
Our "design" is exactly what you'd expect to see from natural processes, and nothing like what you'd expect to see from a competent designer.
(If you know anything about human biology.)
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 5:59 am
(October 31, 2015 at 5:50 am)robvalue Wrote: There is a lot of evidence for the statement, "If we were intelligently designed, that intelligence was not very good at designing."
Our "design" is exactly what you'd expect to see from natural processes, and nothing like what you'd expect to see from a competent designer.
(If you know anything about human biology.)
Not that I believe in an Intelligent designer, but er what if the designer was just incompetent as fuck? What if there are other competent designers that have designed worlds far more perfect than that of ours? I ask this because the only think that seems to not enable you to believe in the concept of an Intelligent designer is the fact that we live in an imperfect world, the world would've very well be designed by an incompetent designer. Would you believe in Intelligent design if this were true?
Also what if we're just incredibly pessimistic and this is in fact a perfect world we live in?
(I don't personally believe in what I said above, I'm only "debugging" your beliefs hehe  )
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 6:07 am
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I'd believe in some sort of designer if there was evidence for that designer. I wouldn't expect any standard from the design, no.
As it happens, there is absolutely no evidence for it at all. We have extremely good explanations which require no external guidance.
The thing that I find strange is that when people attribute our design to "god" or whatever, they are calling god a shitty designer. I call that rather insulting.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 8:37 am
(October 31, 2015 at 5:59 am)pool Wrote: (October 31, 2015 at 5:50 am)robvalue Wrote: There is a lot of evidence for the statement, "If we were intelligently designed, that intelligence was not very good at designing."
Our "design" is exactly what you'd expect to see from natural processes, and nothing like what you'd expect to see from a competent designer.
(If you know anything about human biology.)
Not that I believe in an Intelligent designer, but er what if the designer was just incompetent as fuck? What if there are other competent designers that have designed worlds far more perfect than that of ours? I ask this because the only think that seems to not enable you to believe in the concept of an Intelligent designer is the fact that we live in an imperfect world, the world would've very well be designed by an incompetent designer. Would you believe in Intelligent design if this were true?
Also what if we're just incredibly pessimistic and this is in fact a perfect world we live in?
(I don't personally believe in what I said above, I'm only "debugging" your beliefs hehe )
If there was a designer capable of creating all life on this planet, wouldn't there need to be some level of competency involved? Take, for example the evolution of the whale, it evolved from a land animal, but the indohyus it evolved from originally came from the ocean. WTF? Only a mindless process would meander like this.
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 8:56 am
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Therein lies the rub-
Attaching a god to evolution belittles the very notion of a god. A god wouldn't need evolution to create some pissant life on a pebble in the void. Being the designer of all life on this planet, however well designed, amounts to nothing in the cosmic scheme of things. Smarter than me? Sure... and that's worth even -less- than nothing. The father of maggots, the king of the apes....this is god?
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 9:31 am
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 11:35 am
(October 30, 2015 at 11:46 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: We don't care if you become an atheist or not, Jenny!
We. Don't. Care!
Not knowing basic science and history... well, those are issues most of us might catch a hangnail over.
but i do know basic science and history so i wouldnt be the cause of a hangnail
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 11:36 am
This thread is clear evidence that you don't know either.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 11:45 am
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Love you, sis!
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RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 11:51 am
(October 30, 2015 at 11:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 11:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: well if you see me commenting in a thread all you have to do is go to another thread where im not commenting its easy you can do it 
Or, better yet, demonstrate your error for the lurkers to read. Your shameless dishonesty shouldn't go unanswered.
what am i being dishonest about ? im being very honest here about my opinion on this subject
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
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