Here's why Creatards might be right

[Edwardo Piet]

Sinnerdaniel, Little Rik, Delicate and Chad the pompous, now they're annoying

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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Abiogenesis is how the first replicator molecule happened; evolution is what happened once those replicators started mutating during replication and/or dying off due to competition and environmental factors that disproportionately favored some versions over others. They're somewhat the same thing, since both are the effect of biochemistry in action, but one is not required for the other.

Technically, Xenu could have dropped a turd out of his spacecraft's lavatory on the way past the early earth, and 4+ billion years later, those turd-bacteria became everything we see on earth. It still begs the question of how life first emerged to make Xenu, but as far as evolution goes, it doesn't matter if life arrived here or formed here; we just have no reason to think it didn't form here, based on what we already know of the formation of aqueous lipid layers into protocells, what we already know about interstellar ices forming precursor molecules to what's in earth's organic chemistry set, and what we know about the conditions of the early earth.

how did the first replicator molecule know how to do Abiogenesis or how to mutate ? did it just decide to do it on their own what do you think? replicator molecules were inclined to do that for some reason and did it for some reason

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How do elemental particles form hydrogen atoms and how do hydrogen atoms form helium atoms?  

[jenny1972]

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How do elemental particles form hydrogen atoms and how do hydrogen atoms form helium atoms?  

lol i think this OP topic is too deep for its own good

[TheRocketSurgeon]

how did the first replicator molecule know how to do Abiogenesis or how to mutate ? did it just decide to do it on their own what do you think? replicator molecules were inclined to do that for some reason and did it for some reason

Why would a molecule "know" anything?

You pair up an oxygen atom with two protons and a tiny bit of energy and PRESTO! You have three atoms that "know" how to make a water molecule.

You subject that water molecule (along with a few of its friends) to conditions which take away its heat, and it will freeze into hexagonal patterns, based on the bent-angle shape of the water molecule.

None of this is based on "knowing how", but on simply being molecules of a particular shape in particular conditions. Since we have a really big and widely-varied planet, it should hardly surprise you that somewhere was the right set of conditions for the particular reaction to occur which gave us the first replicator-molecules. 

Because carbon has such an affinity for making bonds (it's the reason we're carbon-based life, and likely so is everything else in the universe, if there's more out there), organic molecules form everywhere we look, all the time, all on their own. Even in comets and asteroids floating in the deeps of space, there is organic chemistry going on. We can tell by studying the vibration-frequencies of the molecules, which emit certain electromagnetic frequencies which we can detect at long distances; this is also how we tell what our sun in made out of, and it's a frequency-pattern experiment I conducted in college physics, which you also can conduct in your own basement with a prism, light, and some measuring tape.

We have found that warm water causes fatty acids (also naturally occurring-- you see them in sea foam when a wave crashes against the rocks) to "bead up" into balls called protocells, which can harbor and shelter the early replicators. NASA/JPL has already demonstrated the creation of protocells from a cometary impact, using just the chemicals found on asteroids/comets we have found fallen to earth. Radiation in deep space "tickles" the carbon and other atoms in deep space ices, comets and such, to form complex organic chemicals like glycoaldehyde, a precursor and simple version of the sugars which make up most of our DNA-- we have also tested this in labs.

It's still undergoing confirmation testing, but there are actually a team of scientists who think they've found the way that conditions on the earth, when comets were still routinely falling from the sky because the Solar System was young and still chaotic, caused the formation of the molecules you think can't exist.

http://phys.org/news/2015-03-chemists-ri...earth.html

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Sorry for the delay in replying; I've spent my evening handing out candy and talking to my neighbors (who won't leave me alone).

On a side note-- what is wrong with women, sometimes? These chicks didn't talk to me once when they thought I was single; now that my fiancee and kid have come by a few times that they've seen, and they've heard me say she's the love of my life, now I'm suddenly "soooo seeeeexxy".

Drunk chicks. Gag me with a fork.

[robvalue]

Rocket: Erm... wrong place for that reply maybe?

If not, don't worry. Women are just fundamentally worse at everything by at least 99%

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Rocket: Erm... wrong place for that reply maybe?

If not, don't worry. Women are just fundamentally worse at everything by at least 99%

Misogynist!!!!! haha

Anyway, I read up on String theory. It seems that most people consider it pure mathematics rather than physics probably because of the difficulties in proving the theory through experimental measures. Furthermore, I read that 2 experiments were conducted to check the validity of some of the proposed ideas in String theory such as supersymmetry but it ended up with no positive results.
So at the moment it is simply a hypotheses with no way to check the validity.

I wonder how particles "know" how to work the way they do. They were probably designed *grumpy face*

[robvalue]

No one is claiming that particles know anything. I think you're projecting your need for agency onto them They follow the rules of physics.

Yeah, string theory is really a hypothesis as far as I know. I don't know much about it.

[jenny1972]

Rocket: Erm... wrong place for that reply maybe?

If not, don't worry. Women are just fundamentally worse at everything by at least 99%

Misogynist!!!!! haha

Anyway, I read up on String theory. It seems that most people consider it pure mathematics rather than physics probably because of the difficulties in proving the theory through experimental measures. Furthermore, I read that 2 experiments were conducted to check the validity of some of the proposed ideas in String theory such as supersymmetry but it ended up with no positive results.
So at the moment it is simply a hypotheses with no way to check the validity.

I wonder how particles "know" how to work the way they do. They were probably designed *grumpy face*

definately !

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Sorry for the delay in replying; I've spent my evening handing out candy and talking to my neighbors (who won't leave me alone).

On a side note-- what is wrong with women, sometimes? These chicks didn't talk to me once when they thought I was single; now that my fiancee and kid have come by a few times that they've seen, and they've heard me say she's the love of my life, now I'm suddenly "soooo seeeeexxy".

Drunk chicks. Gag me with a fork.

you might want to tell your fiance maybe that your neighbors are being that way if someone notices and tells her she will wonder maybe why you didnt tell her about it just a thought

[TheRocketSurgeon]

you might want to tell your fiance maybe that your neighbors are being that way if someone notices and tells her she will wonder maybe why you didnt tell her about it just a thought

She knows. I make fun of them while she's here. I tell her pretty much everything; she knows my heart is hers. Even the lovely Zoe Saldana couldn't tempt me, now. Much.

Seriously, while I still have the ability to recognize an attractive women, it inspires no feeling whatsoever in me. It was that way even around the pretty nurses during my 9 years behind bars, when I hadn't been laid for a decade. That's how in love I am with this woman. My neural pathways are locked to the sensations of her, and nothing else will do.