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Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 8:16 am
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Hello Everyone, Could someone please tell me what is the reason behind Novena prayers. Why it is done 9 days at a stretch and as far as i have heard once a year.. Why not take random days. Also why does a novena prayer involve everyone else who doesn't believe that a God exists. The feeling that one respects and glorify a gods mercy is also something i cant understand. Why must one be at the mercy of God? Even if he or she exists.
1st Day: All Mankind, Especially Sinners
2nd Day: The Souls of Priests and Religious
3rd Day: All Devout and Faithful Souls
4th Day: Those Who Do Not Believe in God, and Those Who Do Not Yet Know Me (Jesus)
5th Day: The Souls of Those Who Have Separated Themselves from My (Jesus') Church
6th Day: The Meek and Humble Souls, and the Souls of Little Children
7th Day: The Souls Who Especially Venerate and Glorify My (Jesus') Mercy
8th Day: The Souls Who Are Detained in Purgatory
9th Day: Souls Who Have Become Lukewarm
I have a born again christian friend who does something like this to let go of difficulties. This person listens to someone in the church and refrains from taking alcohol for 40 days at a stretch. This action somehow relieves one's difficult times. Example , If this person is in debt or a family member is ill. I see this action as some sort of offering/sacrifice to the Gods. Instead of refraining from alcohol if that person did something worthy like genuinely wanting to help someone in need, I think any God (They fear) will accept the latter as a better option. Sadly that's not the case most of the time.
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 8:32 am
I've never heard of this before. Sounds like another colossal waste of time. I agree, if they spent the time actually doing something good, that would give some point to it.
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 9:35 am
first I've ever heard of them as well, but googled it for you this is from a good source:
http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-a-novena.html
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 11:55 am
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Think of prayer like meditation Mia. Especially in the case of rote or repetitive prayer. It constricts your breathing to a pattern, and shifts your focus away from self. If it's a standardized regimen of prayer it imposes structure. Prayer and "divine experience" show an unsurprising correlation. Does this help you to understand why your friend prays to "let go" of difficulties?
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 11:58 am
What kind of 'god' would want to hear the same silly shit repeated day after day?
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 11:59 am
(November 17, 2015 at 11:55 am)Rhythm Wrote: Think of prayer like meditation Mia. Especially in the case of rote or repetitive prayer. It constricts your breathing to a pattern, and shifts your focus away from self. If it's a standardized regimen of prayer it imposes structure. Prayer and "divine experience" show an unsurprising correlation. Does this help you to understand why your friend prays to "let go" of difficulties?
That's very true. But it has the added danger of making you feel like you've taken action regarding an external problem when you have done nothing.
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 12:01 pm
We often do things for some perceived benefit "x", when the actual benefit is 'y". We're mis-attributers, no argument from me on that count.
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 12:03 pm
(November 17, 2015 at 11:58 am)Minimalist Wrote: What kind of 'god' would want to hear the same silly shit repeated day after day?
Oh,
Right.
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 12:06 pm
(November 17, 2015 at 12:03 pm)robvalue Wrote: (November 17, 2015 at 11:58 am)Minimalist Wrote: What kind of 'god' would want to hear the same silly shit repeated day after day?
Oh,
Right.
Do I see Vorlon right at the back of that picture
This is the world's largest gathering of Anusius worshipers, collectively raising their bums to the glory of Anusius. I think.
But this is the new-age sect; the Orthodox forbids pants during this kind of display 
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RE: Questions of Novena Prayers and Offerings
November 17, 2015 at 12:10 pm
Is farting in the face of the guy behind you a stoning offense?
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