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Trialling kids as adults
November 22, 2015 at 9:49 pm
It's the American way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQfEElZDnCs
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 22, 2015 at 9:52 pm
Depends on what they did.
I'm tired of seeing stories of kids who commit serious crimes but get minor punishments because of their age.
If you commit a crime like murder or rape or whatever, then they should be tried as adults.
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 22, 2015 at 10:00 pm
As with so much of the so-called American Criminal Justice system how cases are handled tends to be determined far more by who you are than what you did.
http://fairsentencingofyouth.org/the-iss...entencing/
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 22, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Yes that point is made in the documentary I posted.
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"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 22, 2015 at 10:18 pm
I didn't have an hour to spend watching it.
Suffice it to say that on this issue we agree.
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 22, 2015 at 10:21 pm
If someone does something serious enough, they need to get a serious punishment. Especially since when a kid does something messed up, it's a sign that s/he is a sociopath who's not going to just get better after growing up a bit.
Though like everything else, it really depends on the circumstances.
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 23, 2015 at 7:45 am
I disagree with people arguing that only some crimes should grant trial as adult - Either you're trialed as an adult for ALL Crimes or you're trialed as a child/adolescent and given proper measures. I think most people forget that most punishment methods against minors involves a correction facility and in many ways it is as bad as a prison and limits your freedom. As a general rule, I think between 15-16 years old is fine to be trialed as an adult. The main argument to support less bad punishment for minors and young adults, as I learned in class, is that the younger someone is, specially highly influenciable people like teens, the easier it will be to rehabilitate them.
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 23, 2015 at 7:46 am
(November 22, 2015 at 10:21 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If someone does something serious enough, they need to get a serious punishment. Especially since when a kid does something messed up, it's a sign that s/he is a sociopath who's not going to just get better after growing up a bit.
Though like everything else, it really depends on the circumstances.
It rarely is, psycopaths account for a small percentage of the population so most crimes will not be committed due to psycopathic nature, even if psycopaths commit more crimes as a demographic.
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 23, 2015 at 8:56 am
(November 22, 2015 at 10:21 pm)Chad32 Wrote: ... it's a sign that s/he is a sociopath who's not going to just get better after growing up a bit.
Are you a psychologist or psychiatrist? If not could you please provide a reference for that statement?
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"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Trialling kids as adults
November 23, 2015 at 10:04 am
Tormenting animals as children is a sign of sociopathy. Not a guarantee, but a sign. So if you're doing the same to other children, or something worse, wouldn't that be a bigger red flag? Usually if some kid is getting tried as an adult, it's because they did something that would get the adult more than a few years in prison or a big fine.
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