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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 7:21 am
(December 3, 2015 at 5:14 am)mr_j936 Wrote: Isn't death for adultery and death for leaving islam just a subset of Sharia?
So 1.1 billion would be for the death for leaving Islam.
You know those people who say they believe the Bible is true and inerrant, but then when you get specific you find out that's really a blanket statement and they have, in fact, cherry-picked the rules they like? It's probably the same phenomenon.
"So you believe in Sharia law?"
"Of course! I'm a good Muslim!"
"So you believe apostate Muslims should be killed?"
"What?! No! I'm no BARBARIAN! That law was written for specific people of a specific time, and you have to put it in context, and you have to understand the cultural relevance of..."
"So then you DON'T believe in Sharia Law."
"YES I FUCKING DO WERE YOU NOT LISTENING?!"
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 7:24 am
Good point.
I'm sure every Muslim has their own idea. Those that have the freedom to think for themselves without being killed, that is.
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 9:24 am
(December 3, 2015 at 5:14 am)mr_j936 Wrote: Isn't death for adultery and death for leaving islam just a subset of Sharia?
So 1.1 billion would be for the death for leaving Islam.
Not necessarily. Sharia can be interpreted in different ways. Not everyone who believes in Sharia believes that Allah actually wants adulterers to receive the death penalty or thieves to have their hands chopped off.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 12:02 pm
Obviously, those are not "True Muslims," C/L.
It's a very malleable doctrine!
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 4:32 pm
As are all!
They're a good reason for good people to be good and a even better reason for bad people to be bad.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Here is what good Muslims believe.
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 3, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Thanx for #12 there.
Always wondered how Islamic armies could pillage with impunity, that caveat says it all.
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 4, 2015 at 7:46 pm
(December 3, 2015 at 5:09 pm)KUSA Wrote: Here is what good Muslims believe.
Some of that seems like it was copied from the Babylonian Talmud and from the Old Testament.
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 5, 2015 at 5:46 am
(December 4, 2015 at 7:46 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (December 3, 2015 at 5:09 pm)KUSA Wrote: Here is what good Muslims believe.
Some of that seems like it was copied from the Babylonian Talmud and from the Old Testament.
Considering that Islam is so heavily influenced by Christianity and Judaism (I know, ironic, right?), that pretty much makes sense.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: The 'moderate' side of Islam
December 5, 2015 at 5:54 am
(December 3, 2015 at 2:00 am)Minimalist Wrote: When a fucking cat wails hauntingly I throw a shoe at it.
Fucking cats.
*hiss*
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