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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 7:01 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (December 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Is not being patriotic an atheist thing or something? Lol.
Is it unpatriotic to rightfully criticize one's own country with the aim of improving it?
I kind of thought it wasn't. The "my country right or wrong" attitude is jingoism, not patriotism.
No, this country isn't perfect and I said as much. It just seems like there's always a lot of America bashing on this forum. I get that it's not perfect, but everything being said about it always seems so negative...
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 7:19 pm
I'm always more critical of me and mine. With others it tends not to be my business.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 7:19 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 7:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (December 10, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Is it unpatriotic to rightfully criticize one's own country with the aim of improving it?
I kind of thought it wasn't. The "my country right or wrong" attitude is jingoism, not patriotism.
No, this country isn't perfect and I said as much. It just seems like there's always a lot of America bashing on this forum. I get that it's not perfect, but everything being said about it always seems so negative...
^The thing is we need to take cues from Japan when it comes to making this country better.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 7:29 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Is not being patriotic an atheist thing or something? Lol.
No, it's not. Just because some atheists don't agree with superlative declarations, doesn't mean that atheists don't have loyalty or show support for their country.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 8:52 pm
I'm a patriotic atheist i don't agree with pushing religion into government or changing history saying
the founding fathers were christian and i don't agree with how education is being handled in the United States either.
The fact being the school board is the thing that really harms education we need more science and arts and history real history.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 9:03 pm
America is a great country, but not the greatest. I don't know what the greatest country is. Denmark?
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 9:08 pm
There are some here who might prefer the Netherlands. Not me though. I'm done with pot.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 9:40 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Is not being patriotic an atheist thing or something? Lol.
It would be hard for me to be patriotic about America, which doesn't prevent me from praising my own country's achievements while condemning its faults.
Lol.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 9:43 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 7:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (December 10, 2015 at 6:58 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Is it unpatriotic to rightfully criticize one's own country with the aim of improving it?
I kind of thought it wasn't. The "my country right or wrong" attitude is jingoism, not patriotism.
No, this country isn't perfect and I said as much. It just seems like there's always a lot of America bashing on this forum. I get that it's not perfect, but everything being said about it always seems so negative...
It has a lot of negatives.
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RE: Is America the greatest country
December 10, 2015 at 9:58 pm
(December 10, 2015 at 3:40 pm)Quantum Wrote: The US are still a strangely intruguing country to us crammed together Europeans, maybe because of its promise of possibility and free space, and a certain hard to grasp air of glamour, myth and national spirit. However, its infrastructure is terrible, the legal and prison system is a joke, gun violence is rampant, worker's rights are in a sorry state, and soo many people live in such bad conditions, e.g. concerning health and social protection. Still, having lived there, I get its charm.
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