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Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 12:40 pm
If you want evidence that the Bible is true all you have to do is look at a map of the Middle East. There you will see a country called Israel, which has come back into existence after an absence of more than 1800 years.
If you study the Bible you will find that God warned the Jews that if they sinned they would be scattered among the nations. This happened after they rejected Jesus as being the Messiah God had promised. But even while they were wanderers without a home of their own God still protected them from being destroyed or assimilated into the nations where they lived and enabled them to preserve their language and culture. He did this because he had also promised to regather them to their own land at the end of the age. This began to happen when the nation of Israel was established.
You can find out more of what the Bible says about their present return here:
If you want to learn more details about the history of the Jews I recommend that you read God, Jews, and History by Max I. Dimont
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV
RE: Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 1:17 pm (This post was last modified: June 25, 2010 at 1:21 pm by Jaysyn.)
(June 25, 2010 at 12:40 pm)theophilus Wrote: If you want evidence that the Bible is true all you have to do is look at a map of the Middle East. There you will see a country called Israel, which has come back into existence after an absence of more than 1800 years.
If you study the Bible you will find that God warned the Jews that if they sinned they would be scattered among the nations. This happened after they rejected Jesus as being the Messiah God had promised. But even while they were wanderers without a home of their own God still protected them from being destroyed or assimilated into the nations where they lived and enabled them to preserve their language and culture. He did this because he had also promised to regather them to their own land at the end of the age. This began to happen when the nation of Israel was established.
You can find out more of what the Bible says about their present return here:
If you want to learn more details about the history of the Jews I recommend that you read God, Jews, and History by Max I. Dimont
And a broken clock is right twice a day. Christians have been spouting this nonsense since 1947. Also, taking your silly little "prophecy" to it's logical conclusion means god planned the Holocaust.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
RE: Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 1:17 pm (This post was last modified: June 25, 2010 at 1:18 pm by Welsh cake.)
(June 25, 2010 at 12:40 pm)theophilus Wrote: If you want evidence that the Bible is true all you have to do is look at a map of the Middle East. There you will see a country called Israel, which has come back into existence after an absence of more than 1800 years.
Quoting the Bible as proof of the Bible is not going to get you anywhere. That's equivalent of saying Spider-Man must be real because all we have do to is look at a map of North-eastern United States until we find on the Atlantic coast a place called "New York City".
And my eyeballs went black when I read your claim on the Land of Israel's age... I haven't seen such historical inaccuracy since the movie 300.
RE: Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 1:25 pm
(June 25, 2010 at 1:17 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Quoting the Bible as proof of the Bible is not going to get you anywhere. That's equivalent of saying Spider-Man must be real because all we have do to is look at a map of North-eastern United States until we find on the Atlantic coast a place called "New York City".
I almost shot tea out of my nose when I read this.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
RE: Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 1:33 pm
(June 25, 2010 at 12:40 pm)theophilus Wrote:
If you want evidence that the Bible is true all you have to do is look at a map of the Middle East. There you will see a country called Israel, which has come back into existence after an absence of more than 1800 years.
If you study the Bible you will find that God warned the Jews that if they sinned they would be scattered among the nations. This happened after they rejected Jesus as being the Messiah God had promised. But even while they were wanderers without a home of their own God still protected them from being destroyed or assimilated into the nations where they lived and enabled them to preserve their language and culture. He did this because he had also promised to regather them to their own land at the end of the age. This began to happen when the nation of Israel was established.
You can find out more of what the Bible says about their present return here:
If you want to learn more details about the history of the Jews I recommend that you read God, Jews, and History by Max I. Dimont
On the other hand, if you want evidence that the bible is false, you could check out the writings of your namesake- Theophilus, the second-century christian bishop of Antioch (at the time the third largest city in the Roman Empire, so no backwater). Writings and other info available here.
Whats interesting about theophilus is that he gives a defence of christianity against paganism, complete with a potted history of the world, without mentioning jesus once. His explanation for the derivation of the word 'christian' is as follows:
Quote:And about your laughing at me and calling me "Christian," you know not what you are saying. First, because that which is anointed is sweet and serviceable, and far from contemptible. For what ship can be serviceable and seaworthy, unless it be first caulked [anointed]? Or what castle or house is beautiful and serviceable when it has not been anointed? And what man, when he enters into this life or into the gymnasium, is not anointed with oil? And what work has either ornament or beauty unless it be anointed and burnished? Then the air and all that is under heaven is in a certain sort anointed by light and spirit; and are you unwilling to be anointed with the oil of God? Wherefore we are called Christians on this account, because we are anointed with the oil of God.
Book 1 ch 12 of the Letter to Autolycus
Theophilus was clearly very well acquainted with the OT, but equally clearly had never even heard of jesus. Why not? Perhaps because jesus never actually existed- he was a literary device for re-telling the accumulated religious and moral sayings of the Hebrew people.
The bible is a collection of myths. Wake up and look at the facts.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
RE: Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 4:37 pm (This post was last modified: June 25, 2010 at 5:05 pm by annatar.)
thats really a funy idea..jewish people don't believe in jesus. But still they are getting rewarded? They killed jesus (if the rumor is true.) for god's sake
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.
RE: Existence of Israel is fulfillment of Biblical prophesies
June 25, 2010 at 7:33 pm
(June 25, 2010 at 1:33 pm)Caecilian Wrote: Theophilus was clearly very well acquainted with the OT, but equally clearly had never even heard of jesus. Why not? Perhaps because jesus never actually existed- he was a literary device for re-telling the accumulated religious and moral sayings of the Hebrew people.
The bible is a collection of myths. Wake up and look at the facts.
Jesus a clever literary device... Not the strongest position to take I am afraid, I am a biased "oily one" though.
Don't associate me with the sensational Christian Zionist camp either.