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For those who want proof of the exodus
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 11:33 am)Rhythm Wrote: Why can't you be satisfied with your own comments unless everybody joins your slavery support club Drich?

you don't have to join, just concede like Heat did.
Angel
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 2:24 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 4:59 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: So let me get this straight, is drippy saying that slavery and paid employment are the same, simply because in both cases you're being told what to do? Well, fuck me pink, is he thick.

Yes for the 10th time yes!!!

Look the word up!
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...lish/slave

Being paid can happen and one still be considered a slave. For instance .35 cents per hour is not proper 'remuneration' for the worked demanded. Also people sign quartly or even yearly contracts that demand x amount of hours worked per week or quotas being met before they are released.

Do some RESEARCH before you speak

Okay, so where's their health insurance?  Their sick days or vacation days?  Their rights as an employee for breaks, and to only work so many hours a day/week?  Their right to a safe job site?  Their general right as a person to not be assaulted?

Attempting to paint slavery as employment with really low wages is idiotic and despicable.  Employment, real employment provides the worker with a lot of things outside of just monetary compensation, including basic human rights assurances.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 12:01 pm)athrock Wrote: A positive claim made. Burden of proof shifted.

You can prove that the Exodus never occurred?

How?

There is no proof of exodus FOR FUCKS SAKE
Look, "smart guy.." that's what this thread is all about. It is about the video that documents ALL THE PROOF WE DO HAVE !!! Watch the video. I would have thought this was one topic you could participate in and speak intelligently because it is right up your ally with 'production values.' You don't have to read, just watch the movie and they will show one piece of evidence at a time and explain it very slowly and in great detail!!!
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 12:24 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 10:27 am)Drich Wrote: Yes sport, I would say the vast majority were treated badly, But not everyone who had slaves treated them badly. Washington had a policy where not only where the slave tipped/received bonuses he also promoted slaves to spend free time to better themselves and their living arrangements.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...lives.html

Understand I never said slave were not treated badly ever. I said NOT ALL Slaves Must be treated badly. Nike shoes is a good modern example of this. Ive left posts that explain this in greater detail already.

Understand I never said that slaves were never beaten or treated badly. I said that they did not have to be.
Washington was a greedy scumbag slave owner.  He moved his slaves around so that he wouldn't have to free them if they stayed too long in a State that was eliminating slavery.  
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news...83/?no-ist

He joined the Revolution to lead the fight to keep slavery in the Colonies.  If there's a hell he should be in it for that reason.

so?

go back and reread the reason for me to cite Washington's involvement in slavery, then maybe you can formulate a topical argument.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 12:58 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 12:05 pm)athrock Wrote: Then you are ignorant of the material which is the subject of this thread. 

However, I do understand why asserting this over and over makes life simpler for you...kinda like simply saying that Jesus never even existed is the easiest way to avoid actual thought.

You have to the most ignorant and uneducated person along with OP and presenter. Seriously go to to google 
no theistic sources but chances are they are  lying like the presenter. The Egyptians like the Romans kept records 
they would have kept records of jews and the other religious cults at the time near and around the city. The Romans 
would have had a document on jesus so what the hell does this all say you may wonder. Christianity it's all bullshit 
there is no evidence to prove any of it happening but everyone would gladly follow a lie that has no evidence rather
the reality of it being it's just a goddamn ancient fairy tale.

how can you be this broken? how old are you? is English a 3rd language? what nationality/religion were you? how can you grossly flat out ignore everything that is being said and just stay on your original point? are you a sock puppet, is drysand really stimbo poeing as some troll?
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 2:32 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 11:33 am)Rhythm Wrote: Why can't you be satisfied with your own comments unless everybody joins your slavery support club Drich?

you don't have to join, just concede like Heat did.
Angel

What do you mean?  I have conceded...you condone slavery. I tried to talk you out of it, but you convinced me.

...........?
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 2:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 2:23 pm)athrock Wrote: And merely saying, "There's no evidence" when all six sequential markers have been documented archaeologically, strikes me as a failure to make a case of your own.

Your next dodge will be to claim that each of the six was dissected and disproved in the previous 60 pages, and that you don't want to repeat yourself...but I've been through all 60 and no, you never meticulously worked through each of the six events documented by Mahoney in the film showing why they could not possibly be related to the Exodus.

I know how the forum game is played. It's just not that much fun to play with people who aren't actually interested in pursuing the truth wherever it leads.

But then your idea of entertainment and mine may be different.

Thanks for arguing by way of reassertion and you're right..I'm merely going to refer you back to the pages which precede this one.  You abandoned any pretense regarding a search for truth when you decided that the manner in which to do so was to lie for christ.

I'll take you as seriously as you take yourself, and I'll take your fairy tales as seriously as you take them.  What's the problem?



If someone who argues in support of a position that you disagree with, does that automatically make them a liar for that position?

Would a theist be justified in claiming that you are a liar for atheism?

And you abandoned any pretense regarding a search for truth when you decided that God does not exist and that everything suggesting otherwise MUST - MUST - be explained away to maintain your anti-theist belief system.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm)dyresand Wrote: There is no proof of exodus FOR FUCKS SAKE
Look, "smart guy.." that's what this thread is all about. It is about the video that documents ALL THE PROOF WE DO HAVE !!! Watch the video. I would have thought this was one topic you could participate in and speak intelligently because it is right up your ally with 'production values.' You don't have to read, just watch the movie and they will show one piece of evidence at a time and explain it very slowly and in great detail!!!

Oh go fuck yourself please you haven't produced any evidence the link didn't provide credible evidence. 
There is no credible evidence in history to support the claim of exodus.
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 2:43 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 15, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Drich Wrote: Look, "smart guy.." that's what this thread is all about. It is about the video that documents ALL THE PROOF WE DO HAVE !!! Watch the video. I would have thought this was one topic you could participate in and speak intelligently because it is right up your ally with 'production values.' You don't have to read, just watch the movie and they will show one piece of evidence at a time and explain it very slowly and in great detail!!!

Oh go fuck yourself please you haven't produced any evidence the link didn't provide credible evidence. 
There is no credible evidence in history to support the claim of exodus.

One question: Have you watched the film from beginning to end?
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RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(January 15, 2016 at 2:42 pm)athrock Wrote: If someone who argues in support of a position that you disagree with, does that automatically make them a liar for that position?
Nope....and what a silly querstion, I might add.  Were you unsure on that count?

Quote:Would a theist be justified in claiming that you are a liar for atheism?
If "a theist" could point out some lie for atheism, sure.  

Quote:And you abandoned any pretense regarding a search for truth when you decided that God does not exist and that everything suggesting otherwise MUST - MUST - be explained away to maintain your anti-theist belief system.

This is the most common failing of your lot.  You simply cannot grasp what I've already explained to you.  I don't have a dog in the fight that you think we're having.  I'm an anti-theist regardless of exodus being factual or fictional, my anti-theism is in no way associated with or connected to the truth of this...or any other narrative in your holy books.  

I'm an anti-theist if god doesn't exist.
I'm an anti-theist if god does exist.
I'm an anti-theist if exodus didn't happen.
I'm an anti-theist is exodus did happen.

Understand?

Now that I've worked you up into an apologetic frenzy, would you like to reassert the claim you made earlier...that I have failed to substantiate my assessment of you?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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