My Rebuttal to Dawkins Argument

[LastPoet]

Dumbass doesn't even know greek.

[Nay_Sayer]

I have a masters in philosophy, I got it delivered to me by the mighty FSM during a tantric mediation session.

Very well son.
So the meaning of philosophy is............?  

Obey FSM at all times, Then all is understood.

[Edwardo Piet]

Dumbass doesn't even know greek.

Nor do I, it's all Greek to me. I mean, I don't speak Welsh. What do you think I am? Russian?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I have a masters in philosophy, I got it delivered to me by the mighty FSM during a tantric mediation session.

Very well son.
So the meaning of philosophy is............?  

It's the top of a cereal box.

[Little Rik]

Dumbass doesn't even know greek.

Dumbass?
You mean those idiots that write greek instead of Greek?  

[Little Rik]

Very well son.
So the meaning of philosophy is............?  

It's the top of a cereal box.

Gee, now is all clear.
I have been thinking and thinking day and night how you guys got such a big reputation on this forum.
Now i know.
It is by giving idiotic answers that you get such a big reputation.
Gee, i never thought about it?  

[Thumpalumpacus]

It's the top of a cereal box.

Gee, now is all clear.
I have been thinking and thinking day and night how you guys got such a big reputation on this forum.
Now i know.
It is by giving idiotic answers that you get such a big reputation.
Gee, i never thought about it?  

Someone missed a cultural reference. But to be honest, if you think I'm an idiot, I'm probably doing something right; your opinion is worth every penny I paid for it.

[paulpablo]

It's the top of a cereal box.

Gee, now is all clear.
I have been thinking and thinking day and night how you guys got such a big reputation on this forum.
Now i know.
It is by giving idiotic answers that you get such a big reputation.
Gee, i never thought about it?  

It's safe to say that this thread is going to continue for another 10000 pages of babble now.  The thread really should have ended once the guy who started it didn't reply.

[Mister Agenda]

Hello, 

Greetings to you brothers and sisters in humanity,

I would like to refute Richard Dawkins argument " If God created man, then who created God? "

The answer to this question is very simple, and I would like to discuss it in detail:

1. The Creator is called The Creator, so how can the Creator have a creator if he is The Creator?

2. The question can be turned around, which will allow me to ask: " If the universe created man, then who created the universe? "

3. Only do things in our galaxy and universe and space-time, require a creator. God is obviously out of space and time, and the galaxy and universe, in another dimension, in which we do not understand.

4. This is like saying that an explanation requires an explanation, which would lose you in an infinite regress, which is clearly contradictory to the bases and fundamentals of science.

5. Antony Flew in his book states:

Now, clearly theists and atheist can agree on one thing: if anything at all exists, there must be something preceding it that always existed. How did this eternally existing reality come to be? The answer is that it never came to be. It always existed. Take your pick: God or universe. Something always existed

1. Argument from semantics? The meaning of a word doesn't prove anything about reality. If the word doesn't fit, it's not the right word.
2. Then you would be pretending an impersonal universe is equivalent to a personal creator.
3. You haven't established that those things require a creator. They may require a cause, which is not the same thing. God is not obviously out of space/time, God has been redefined so because he can't be found within space/time, so an ad hoc explanation of where he is was made up. There was no talk of the Abrahamic God being outside of space/time before Einstein. Plus, you've assumed God, which is the thing you're trying to prove.
4. Explanations DO require explanations, but the explanation for the explanation is often obvious. The regress stops when it hits verifiable facts.
5. And that something may well be quantum foam. I'm fascinated by how many of the attributes I'm often told God must possess are inherent to it.

[Edwardo Piet]

Defining The Creator as the first cause and unable to have a creator by definition is one thing, clamining that that first cause/creator is a supernatural creator being with a personality and a mind is another thing altogether, and defining it as one that is supposedly from a specific scripture is another thing still.