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What sucks due to my religion (for me).
#31
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Just checking if I'm on ignore or not, due to lack of interaction on another thread.
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#32
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:30 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(December 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Ah, the constraints religion puts on dating.  Your problem is not new.  People have been forced to look within their own churches (and mosques) for partners.  This, of course, is what religion wants:  believer couples that will raise believer children.   Why not find a girl within your Muslim community?  After all, the odds of convincing this person that Islam is true is pretty slim.

Cause I really like her. Sad

Then, my friend, you're in a spot many others have been in before you.  You either have to give her up, break the rules of your religion and hope the end result isn't as bad as you claim, or break with your religion.  Because it doesn't seem, from your description of her, that this person will convert.  I could be wrong, and you will probably try.  So let us know how it turns out.   

I know it hurts - I have been in a similar situation.  I'm sorry.   If she does not convert, and if you cannot break the rules, then, for your sake, go out and mingle with some Muslim friends - with some single females.  The only help will be to distract yourself.
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#33
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:34 pm)robvalue Wrote: Here's a starter for 10: why would God be so petty as to make these silly rules?

Keeping society with husband and wife committed to each other, kids raised knowing their parents, is quite important don't you think?

People acting loosely can always result in other families being broken or kids born out of wedlock, or kids having wrong father (due to adultery).

I don't think you can solve the issue of adultery without solving fornication, they compliment each other.
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#34
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Acting loosely? Music, and dancing?

Blimey.

No, I don't agree that super strict rules help a happy family.

Well, like I said, I'll happily kick seven shades of shit out of religion any way you want me to. Always happy to oblige.
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#35
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Christ Mystic, you like her but she's too loose for you.  No reason to turn it into an discussion of faith, lol.  It's not that serious.
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#36
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
There is alternate case:

I convince her Bible condemns fornication and forbids paradise to fornicators. She regret it, repents.
We marry as Muslim - Christian couple.

She already is Christian.
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#37
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Right about now I feel like finding this girl, dragging her to MK's place and fucking her right on top of his dining room table, never once breaking direct eye contact with him for the entire 4 - hour shagathon.

Seriously. Dude. Jesus Bicycling Christ. You're a human being. These urges you are feeling are deeply ingrained in your biological make-up: there is no denying them. It comes out sooner or later whether you like it or not.

You don't know Islam is true (hint: it fucking well ain't). But you DO know how you feel about her. So man up, shed the childish fairy tale and start living your life a little, before you grow old and bitter and full of regret for the experiences you could have had but pussied out of because of your ideological comfort blankie.
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#38
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
She's a loose christian, she'd be a loose muslim.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#39
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
It's sad to me that you want to try and recruit her into a religion that is already making you unhappy.

As for "rules", if they are objectively good rules, then follow them because of that, not because some books says so.
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#40
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(December 28, 2015 at 1:24 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Don't overthink it: Go out, do what or who you like, pray for forgiveness.

To really pray for forgiveness in Islam, you really have to regret it and sincerely be sorry for it and have resolve not to do it again. So if I don't regret it, I will regret it the next world.

If I do regret it, then I will regret it. Either way I will regret it.

Doesn't seem really smart to do something I know I will regret.

Okay. Looks like you've got one shot, then.

Go out, do what and who you like, AND do it well enough that this woman agrees to whatever terms you set forth, including marriage. Regret the naughty bits. Pray for forgiveness. Wink
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