What sucks due to my religion (for me).

[CapnAwesome]

Did you use the word fornicating? That should throw up some red flags.

Anyway, Islam isn't true and you are torturing yourself for no reason.

[Mystic]

I am torturing myself that much is true.

[Anomalocaris]

Yucks. You guys just are taking cheap shots. Eh, I should of known better.

Yeah, who would have thunk.

[CapnAwesome]

You think so?  This deep and abiding affection you feel for the girl is shown in the fact that you would insist that she become someone else, before she were acceptable, to you?  That's some cheap, petty shit Mystic.

I would leave Islam to be with her, if I could convince myself Islam is not true. I really would. But there is no turning back on Islam when I know it to be true.

Don't worry, I've watched you on these forums for years. Nobody flip flops on beliefs quite like you, next month you'll be back to believing in something else. She'll probably have moved on by then though, too bad.

[Mystic]

More cheap shots.

[CapnAwesome]

You are not having a healthy relationship with a girl because an epileptic 1400 years ago had some delusions a and wrote a shitty rip off of the bible. Islam makes no sense. For example, consider the fasting during Ramadan. How are people in far north or south supposed to do it during super long days when Ramadan falls in the summer? Allah, who knows everything didn't know that long days existed? Or is it possible that Muhammad, a man who lived close to the equator didn't know. Or about the Qu'ran only being in ancient Arabic, as is said multiple times in it. God, who lives infinitely is unaware that languages change over time? Am I to believe an all knowing god is unaware of linguistics, or maybe that statement was said by a man with no knowledge of linguistics. Which is more likely to you?

Everything about Islam points to it being man made, by someone living in the middle east with a specific culture, in a specific time.

One day, like everybody else on the planet, you will not exist. You will be nothing, like you were before you were born. So go to the party, drink and fuck the girl.

[The Grand Nudger]

Let me propose an alternative scenario, lol.  You like a girl that is pretty and loose, at least in part -because- she is pretty and loose.  However, like many men such as yourself, you fear that she might cheat on you, because she is pretty and loose, should you choose to commit to a relationship.  Your mind and comments immediately reeled to adultery upon discussion. Your own self doubt and suspicions are the source of your discomfort, not the disparity between your religions..because in this instance, there is no disparity.

[robvalue]

This is my attempt to help you.

I start off with sensible, logical arguments, then I hammer my point home with merciless mocking of "God" in what could be considered a very childish manner. It's up to you if you watch it. I sincerely hope it will help.

http://youtu.be/4W0mJ7svsKk

[downbeatplumb]

Just have a wank and cry over what could have been.

[Mystic]

This is my attempt to help you.

I start off with sensible, logical arguments, then I hammer my point home with merciless mocking of "God" in what could be considered a very childish manner. It's up to you if you watch it. I sincerely hope it will help.

http://youtu.be/4W0mJ7svsKk

I watched it. A lot of points were covered, and I feel discussing the video would derail this thread. However, if you want, we can have a thread where you and I discuss God and religion, and particularly that of Islam. Remember I was Deist for five years, so I've thought about the arguments for and against religion for a while. I've dabbled into many of my own arguments against religion. I've also dealt with the issue of evil/suffering. I would be happy to discuss these things with you only to come to a mutual understanding of our positions.