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What sucks due to my religion (for me).
#61
What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 4:54 pm)robvalue Wrote: Haha, thanks Big Grin

Yeah, I have helped at least one person I'm aware of with direct approaches like this to shatter the veil of fear. Sometimes it takes a slegehammer rather than a scalpel.

I've no idea if it will help Mystic, but it's my best attempt given that he's already seen all the standard stuff before.

I like your videos bro. It's cool seeing and hearing someone as opposed to just looking at text all the time. Keep it up.
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#62
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So I was invited by a girl I really like to go somewhere new years.  Only thing I know there is alcohol, music, dancing, etc, so not allowed going.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T GO.

Secondly although earlier I did temporary marriage/relationship (mutal nikah) with this person, however I realized she is a fornicator through out her life, which Quran forbids any form of marriage to up until they repent and change their ways.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T YOU KNOW NOW.

If I could convince myself Islam is not true, I would. I would really. LOOK AT WHAT I'M MISSING OUT ON. But I know it to be true and can't go against my knowledge, and cover it up.


SHE HAS BLUE EYES. BLUE EYES. PRETTY. 

But at least I'm going to see her tomorrow.


And this is a perfect example of why many atheists care what other people believe. 

Just look at how your unsupported, irrational, illogical beliefs are messing up your ability to experience the joys of life.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#63
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Kusa: Thanks a lot, I appreciate it Smile

Such positive feedback encourages me to do more.

I did make this point in my vid, but MK: even if Islam is "true", you don't have to follow it. Things can exist without you having to worship them or bow to their demands.
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#64
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
I haven't read through every page of this, so apologies if this has come up already.

From what I can gather, Knight, there's a girl who likes you for who you are and wants to be with you and spend her time with you. You really like this girl, but you have judged her to act immorally based on your religion and want to change her into something more acceptable to your standards - not for her sake but purely to make yourself feel better and appease your conscience about liking her and wanting her. Please tell me that I've got this wrong, because otherwise this is the single most disgusting thing I've heard in a long time.

Fuxxake, man, some of us would fucking kill for someone to want them, and here you are with it handed to you on a silver plate and asking if there's a vegetarian option.

You get one choice. Pull your head out of your arse and take what's right in front of you; or do the decent thing and let her be happy in her own life.

I tried to write more but I am so angry right now I can't trust myself not to put anything insulting, so I think I should log out before I do something we might all regret.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#65
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Sheesh, religion sure knows how to suck the being human out of being human.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#66
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I can go if while believing in my religion. I just would be disobeying God and doing evil. A lot of Muslims do bad things.

I just venting.

I GOT TO BE PATIENT.

Well good news, there is no fucking god and you're missing out on the one life you got. Thanks to religion for ruining another life.

Break the chains of superstition or be grateful of your chains.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
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#67
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: She's a loose christian, she'd be a loose muslim.

Don't stress it man.
Nothing a few Allah sanctioned "backhander mats wilander" won't fix!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#68
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
Yup. Reason #gazillion why religion is stupid.
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#69
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So I was invited by a girl I really like to go somewhere new years.  Only thing I know there is alcohol, music, dancing, etc, so not allowed going.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T GO.

Yeah - it must suck to be treated like a child your entire life.

(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Secondly although earlier I did temporary marriage/relationship (mutal nikah) with this person, however I realized she is a fornicator through out her life, which Quran forbids any form of marriage to up until they repent and change their ways.

SO IT SUCKS THAT I CAN'T YOU KNOW NOW.

Sure - let someone else have sex with the woman you like - perhaps multiple people, possibly at once - because you live your life by an old book. Just keep reminding yourself, that you're going to be knee-deep in p*ssy forever, after you die. And hey - if you're lucky, perhaps one day you'll find a woman that your book will approve of. And if she turns out to be a total dullard, or physically unappealing to you - at least you'll be able to keep her covered up and silent most of the time... Tongue

(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If I could convince myself Islam is not true, I would. I would really. LOOK AT WHAT I'M MISSING OUT ON. But I know it to be true and can't go against my knowledge, and cover it up.

You don't "know" sh*t. If you really knew anything - your silly crush on some girl would be a non-issue. You just chose to believe in a fantasy and you're too invested in it, at this point, to even allow for the possibility of being wrong. And every time you give up something you want because of religion - that's just another "investment".

(December 28, 2015 at 12:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: SHE HAS BLUE EYES. BLUE EYES. PRETTY. 

But at least I'm going to see her tomorrow.

Don't worry - one day you'll figure out how to be a hypocrite, just like most religious people are and then you'll be able to do whatever you want, all the while claiming adherence to the will of your book.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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#70
RE: What sucks due to my religion (for me).
MK, where you live, are better off being a believer?
If so, play it safe. Don't risk getting your head chopped off.

The lust you feel towards her is just the devil tempting you.
If you give in, you go to hell forever... simple as that.
Don't let these atheist scum pervert your relationship with the almighty.
It's all in your book man, don't take MY word for it!

Be safe!

PS (you wouldn't have her phone number by any chance?)
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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