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infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
#11
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Doubtless, my friend.

Ever seen where the pope lives?
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#12
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Quote:Anyway i dont want to borepeople with pages of verses. Muslims always claim that we are using only one verse. what could it be after these verses to make them better?
you can read it all but it is just as i said...
when you continue the rest of the verses you will have more understanding of what the verses you quote means and whom they are referring to
Quote:Besides harun yahya(adnan oktar) is a huge liar you know that right?
Please do not send me harun yahya's or Fetullah Gulen's bullshits..
the link have nothing to do with harun yehia its just a copy of the Quran yusufali translation and i dont know about harun yehya i didnt read about him or any of his books
Quote:And now you are really silent when it comes to muhammed's sexual life.
didn't comment on AHZAB 50.(33:50)
plz clarify your claims i dont know what do you mean this verse is talking about marriages and have nothing to do with sex
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#13
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Quote:plz clarify your claims i dont know what do you mean this verse is talking about marriages and have nothing to do with sex
okay lets say marriges..(like he isnt banging them after maried..)
tell me why he has this privilage?I can almost hear your answer "allah said so"
also you can explain why he married with his adopted son's wife?(again allah said so.)
everytime when muhammed gets horny god sends a verse for him cant you see?
dude that book is full of this kind of crap.. Are you that blind?
Quote:the link have nothing to do with harun yehia its just a copy of the Quran yusufali translation and i dont know about harun yehya i didnt read about him or any of his books
thats good but you accused me of stealing from another websites. prove that or apologize! If you can't do neither of them i dont have anything to say..
Quote:when you continue the rest of the verses you will have more understanding of what the verses you quote means and whom they are referring to
its obvious whom he is reffering to.. to those who mock him.(and i am proud to be one of them.and dont tell me he just told this to bunch of people who lived at muhammed's time)
another verse telling "And if we had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] "I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together."
dude what he could possibly say after that to undo this? I could do this but im not in the mood right now!??!?! or i was too drunk and i made a promise??!And tell me what my sin is? not to believe god. he will forgive everyone rapers murderers child abusers(and muhammed one of them!) but i will burn eternally for not believing him! and he is fair...
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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#14
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
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plz set aside the jokes and the mocking as it just weakens your position and lets have more civilized conversation which we can share knowledge and opinions with each other Smile
Quote:tell me why he has this privilage?I can almost hear your answer "allah said so"
do you even know what is the privilage?
Quote:thats good but you accused me of stealing from another websites. prove that or apologize! If you can't do neither of them i dont have anything to say..
am not accusing you of stealing from another websites am saying that you copy and paste the verses without reading them first Smile and thats because you ask questions about some verses that if you just read one more verse you will have an answer except if you copy and paste from a website that dont write the context
Quote:its obvious whom he is reffering to.. to those who mock him
this is god talking to unbelievers not to those who mock
Quote:another verse telling "And if we had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] "I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together."
dude what he could possibly say after that to undo this?
plz read the verses before and the begining of the verse you quoted
Quote:And tell me what my sin is? not to believe god.he will forgive everyone rapers murderers child abusers i will burn eternally for not believing him! and he is fair...
this can take a whole thread but all i can say that god is so fair that he leaves you talk like this about his word and after all that if you repent you will be forgiven for all this
"53-Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah. for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.54-"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped."(Quran 39:53-54)
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
But what if he DOES'NT repent? What if he does the harmless behaviour of not believing until after he's dead? Does your god still forgive him? Or does he insanely make him suffer in hell? It's not fair in the first place to punish people for thought crimes. Thoughts do no harm. Only actions can harm. Refusing to think certain thoughts, like prayers and worship, or lack of certain thoughts, like disbelief, are not bad. Why does your god need them? Does he have bad self esteem and needs people to reassure him 5 times a day that he is so great and wonderful?
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
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#16
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
And what happens to some one who has never heard of allah and mu-mu?
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
(July 2, 2010 at 11:18 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: this can take a whole thread but all i can say that god is so fair that he leaves you talk like this about his word and after all that if you repent you will be forgiven for all this
"53-Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah. for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.54-"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped."(Quran 39:53-54)

Why does he care what we think? I mean really. See if you can answer the question directly. If he is so powerful and knowledgeable why would he actually be bothered that I don't believe he exists, especially given the complete lack of evidence.

And then, after this life is over, if I still don't profess my repentance and bow down to his will and worship him I'll be sent to hell or eternal punishment. This sounds like the behaviour of a spoilt, selfish, egocentric and immature child who has been given omnipotent powers and is totally abusing them.
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#18
RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Quote:am not accusing you of stealing from another websites am saying that you copy and paste the verses without reading them first Smile and thats because you ask questions about some verses that if you just read one more verse you will have an answer except if you copy and paste from a website that dont write the context
No thats what you do. I read all verses i sent carefuly. But verses you sent were frequently irrelevant to our topic. if that verses is not what its look like then please explain what they means!(i want to see you suffer.Big Grin)
Quote:do you even know what is the privilage?
yesi know. do you???
" Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers." only for him!!!
"we have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort."not others only for him!
verse is clear mate... During hijra muhammed needed company. thats all.

Quote:this is god talking to unbelievers not to those who mock
do believers usually mock him? Anyway we dont believe becouse allah create us like that. and we will be burnt etarnally. muhammed wrote these verses becouse some of the unbelievers really pissed him off..
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Quote:No thats what you do. I read all verses i sent carefuly. But verses you sent were frequently irrelevant to our topic. if that verses is not what its look like then please explain what they means!(i want to see you suffer.Big Grin)
sometimes you ask questions that is answered in the verse you quote and is clear in the context thats why i think you dont read the context.i dont explain the verse if its so clear and need no explanation if you want me to explain any verse just ask Smile
Quote:" Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers." only for him!!!
"we have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort."not others only for him!
verse is clear mate... During hijra muhammed needed company. thats all.
lol you think this because you are assuming that he wrote the Quran so your claims is based on something that we dont agree upon so whatever i say you will claim that he said this for personal benefit and you will start making claims without any proof.if you want to know about this issue you must read about the history of arabs in his time to see that the whole thing was not in his benefit at all and that if he said only a little word about the pagans he would lived like a king but he never did this issue needs a more deep understanding of what was happening in this time and how his life was and you will find infinite situations that proofs he wasnt saying anything for his own benefit but in contrary there was a lot of verses in the Quran that says he is just a man like you who have chosen to be a messenger like a lot of messengers before him.
Quote:do believers usually mock him? Anyway we dont believe becouse allah create us like that. and we will be burnt etarnally. muhammed wrote these verses becouse some of the unbelievers really pissed him off..
no Allah didnt create non believers like that they chose this for personal reasons and for bad intentions inside them which can be changed if the intentions become searching with objectivity for the truth.they wasnt mocking they was talking with him and telling him what they think and god answered them
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RE: infinite reasons made me not to believe islam
Quote:no Allah didnt create non believers like that they chose this for personal reasons and for bad intentions inside them which can be changed if the intentions become searching with objectivity for the truth.they wasnt mocking they was talking with him and telling him what they think and god answered them
they didn't believe muhammed right? but how could sealing their eyes and ears help? verses are clear it says allah sealed their eyes and ears. Why he did that? I am asking this to you why?
you know what never mind... you wont understand anyway.. Its just a waste of time..
Quote:Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. Even the very wise cannot see all ends.

Gandalf The Gray.
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