Not only that but justified true belief isn't always enough to be knowledge:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_pr...rue_belief
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_pr...rue_belief
Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
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Not only that but justified true belief isn't always enough to be knowledge:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_pr...rue_belief RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 4, 2016 at 4:14 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2016 at 4:14 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(January 4, 2016 at 1:51 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: ...and atheists get annoyed with theists coming here and regularly telling us how stupid and ignorant we are. This is our home, leave us be. 1) AF would be very very dull if not for theists. 2) I don't tell everyone they are stupid and ignorant, just people like you. (January 4, 2016 at 4:06 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 11:56 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The definition is quite simple: justified true belief. Any qualifications of that definition come from your own bias. How do you distinguish between what you call a "spiritual" belief from the set of all possible beliefs? (January 4, 2016 at 4:10 pm)Evie Wrote: Not only that but justified true belief isn't always enough to be knowledge: Wow! You found an answer you like using Google! Amazing. not. (January 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 3:35 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Belief, but not spiritual. Sure we are. I value my life, the life of my family and friends, and by reason of being a human being, biased toward my own species, I have the ability to extrapolate value on to others I do not personally know. All it takes is a bit of empathy, our evolutionary past, and logic and reason. There is zero reason to posit a deity in order to value human beings. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 4, 2016 at 4:26 pm
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(January 4, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 4:17 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Are we justified in believing in human value? What scientific evidence is there to prove human worth or value? Did you base your belief in human value on science or other then that? Do you believe humans before scientific method were justified in believing in human value or not? RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 4, 2016 at 4:32 pm
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(January 4, 2016 at 4:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(January 4, 2016 at 1:51 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: ...and atheists get annoyed with theists coming here and regularly telling us how stupid and ignorant we are. This is our home, leave us be. No it would still be very interesting and still be full of awesome people, it would be just less interesting and full of less awesome people, although many of the theists are not so interesting (as many of the atheists aren't). Quote:2) I don't tell everyone they are stupid and ignorant, just people like you.Well you're wrong, she isn't. It's also rude and unnecessary to say to her. RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 4, 2016 at 4:51 pm
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"Value" is a subjective judgement. Nothing can prove anything has objective value.
What some weird being supposedly watching us all thinks about it is as subjective as anything else. Either you care about other people being happy, or you don't. You can find reasons to justify that to yourselves logically or "spiritually" but in the end it's just how you are. Of course, people can change over time though. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (January 4, 2016 at 4:51 pm)robvalue Wrote: "Value" is a subjective judgement. Nothing can prove anything does or not have objective value. I wish i knew how to lay out my posts like this. |
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