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Shell B and Min I do not know who got it started but I never said that we needed to build a pyramid all I stated was that structural engineers have said that with todays technology we could not lay out the base of the pyramids as accurately as the Egyptians were able to. So with that info I do not see how we could build a pyramid as accurately as they did, when the base is off the futher you get into the construction the further off the structure becomes. This is basic building knowledge. In todays construction we have materials that are far more flexible than the stone the Eygptians used so we do not have to be as accurate as they were it's far easier to make adjustments with todays materials than those huge blocks of stone used in the construction of the pyramids. Also I never said that the Egyptians, Greeks or Romans were more advanced than man is today the only point that I wanted to make was that these people were not so primative as people today try and make them out to be.
Yes I do know the aqueducts were built to move water sometimes a long distance I also know the Romans had hot and cold running water for their public baths and if I'm not mistaken some homes had the same.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(July 8, 2010 at 3:15 am)Godschild Wrote: Shell B and Min I do not know who got it started but I never said that we needed to build a pyramid all I stated was that structural engineers have said that with todays technology we could not lay out the base of the pyramids as accurately as the Egyptians were able to. So with that info I do not see how we could build a pyramid as accurately as they did, when the base is off the futher you get into the construction the further off the structure becomes. This is basic building knowledge. In todays construction we have materials that are far more flexible than the stone the Eygptians used so we do not have to be as accurate as they were it's far easier to make adjustments with todays materials than those huge blocks of stone used in the construction of the pyramids. Also I never said that the Egyptians, Greeks or Romans were more advanced than man is today the only point that I wanted to make was that these people were not so primative as people today try and make them out to be.
Yes I do know the aqueducts were built to move water sometimes a long distance I also know the Romans had hot and cold running water for their public baths and if I'm not mistaken some homes had the same.
You have no idea how the pyramids were built do you. The Ancient Egyptians didn't build them on their own because of A, being primitive, and B, the theories available and described are in ways impossible due to the massive weight of each block. Here:
(July 8, 2010 at 9:09 pm)superstarr Wrote: You have no idea how the pyramids were built do you. The Ancient Egyptians didn't build them on their own because of A, being primitive, and B, the theories available and described are in ways impossible due to the massive weight of each block. Here:
Read it all and you'll learn a thing or two. Skip to the section of : "Ok, So Who/What Built the Pyramids?"
superstarr's netscientia article Wrote:The Great Pyramid is believed to have been built over a 20 year span. The pyramid is so huge and so perfect we wouldn't be able to construct something in this day and age that will compare.
Sorry, but I'm not going to take an article where the author writes Ciaro, instead of Cairo, seriously. It's not that hard to run a spellcheck.
July 8, 2010 at 9:40 pm (This post was last modified: July 8, 2010 at 9:53 pm by Minimalist.)
Good. Glad to hear that.
Starr, I do have some problems with the whole scenario laid out by the Egyptology Club. Here's a link to a post I made at Archaeologica about 4 years ago.
Nope structural engineers have stated that we (modern man) do not have the ability,even with all our technology, to lay out the base of the pyrimids as accurately as the Egyptians did.
travis Wrote:1. Please provde citation for claims dealing with assertions of structural engineers.
2. You're absolutely fucking insane if you think that modern man doesn't have the ability to effectively put a bunch of big rocks in a pile in such a way that is consistent. The reason we don't rebuild pyramids is because there's no need for such structures. We tend to construct buildings that are efficient, both in manpower and materials, not huge stone monuments set aside for the burials of Gods among men.
Check these out for some concise rebuttals to your catasrophe of an argument:
Not only could we do it, we could do a far better job than those living thousands of years ago.
I have yet to see any structure made in the Stone or Bronze Age that rivals the intricacy, precision, or attention to detail of any major structure built today.
(July 7, 2010 at 4:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not going through all my books and research to find that statement if you don't accept my word about it then, if you are interested, you'll need to do your own research.
So you make a claim and tell people to kick rocks when they call you out on it? How about this - back up your claims. It's not my problem that you're too lazy to look shit up, nor does it strengthen your argument.
(July 7, 2010 at 4:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: I did not say that we need to rebuild the pyramids all I stated is that we can not build them with the accuracy that the Eygptians obtained.
First, my name isn't travish.
Second, did you even read the articles in the links I posted? This statement is absolute nonsense.
You're saying placing rocks in a pile in such a way that they're accurate is an impossible thing to do. Have you no idea the tolerances on a modern skyscraper? How about something like the Hadron collider?
(July 7, 2010 at 4:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've been in the building trades for many years and I still have not seen a house built that was truely square and I've been associated with some very creditable builders.
So houses that aren't level are evidence that we can't accomplish it? Let's take this argument in another form:
I've worked on cars for many years and I still have not seen a car that runs on electricity and I've been associated with some very creditable mechanics.
Does this mean that no electric cars exist?
(July 7, 2010 at 4:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've yet to see stone work by modern man that's so precise that you can not slip a piece of paper between the stones even after a thousand years.
The fact you haven't seen it doesn't really mean anything when it's demonstrably false.
(July 7, 2010 at 4:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: All those beautiful buildings you posted will not be standing in 3000 years.
Evidence of this? Do you get the power to see into the future when you become Christian or something?
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