Islam and its History and Impact of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

[Angrboda]

one man from a desert in a very difficult time of human history to achieve that and reach EVERYONE even people in our time is just beyond amazing , only God can do that for a person

This is bullshit. The Eleusinian Mystery cults lasted for 2,000 years. People join mass cults, have children, convert others. There is nothing supernatural in any of this. You're full of shit.

[WinterHold]

They already "owned" property and already have most wealth in Mecca. Take somebody like Uthman Ibn Affan :

Well, so? Dick Cheney had massive wealth. Didn't prevent him to support the invasion of Iraq and making sure that Haliburton, where he held a rather impressive share, to get the most lucrative contracts.

Chenny was playing war economy; sacrificed the small pawns to get to the bigger price, that is one thing, supporting a prophet who is preaching a new religion that officially calls for shutting down main sources of income in ancient Arabia such as "raids & looting" along with risking the trading caravan routes, also risking the men working under the trader to prosecuted, I mean this is so different than what Dick did in the invasion of Iraq.

The invasion of Iraq was a 100% chance of winning the war & engineer a whole load of destruction afterwards; following in a context called "war economy". A big difference there.

[Mystic]

All this hypothetical intention talk leads no where.

It could be power hunger on behalf of himself or it can on behalf of God.

All this he could of done it for this, he couldn't have done it for that, is all meaningless.

If he was a fake Prophet, he was in it for himself. If he was a true Prophet, he did what he did for the sake of God.

All this discussion of motives is not going to solve this issue. We can theory all day and talk about what is more likely...but at the end, God wants us to determine this issue in an objective manner.

[The Grand Nudger]

Then "god" is going to be mightily disappointed with my conclusion, huh?

[yukapuka]

one man from a desert in a very difficult time of human history to achieve that and reach EVERYONE even people in our time is just beyond amazing , only God can do that for a person

This is bullshit.  The Eleusinian Mystery cults lasted for 2,000 years.  People join mass cults, have children, convert others.  There is nothing supernatural in any of this.  You're full of shit.

your problem is that you think that ever nation and people in history lived like you do today, so you dont have vision to see the reality of the situation , hence why i made ths post in the first place talking about the surrounding very important context , and you mentioning some unknown cult is just pure nonsense

and again you trying to justify with stupid arguments it cause you dont like the message it propagates

[The Grand Nudger]

Thanks for coming along to describe the problems of we lowly heathens.  I'm sure your comments will be well received and acted upon.

[Cyberman]

your problem is that you think that ever nation and people in history lived like you do today, so you dont have vision to see the reality of the situation ,

I bet you didn't know that's what you think, did you Apo? Aren't you lucky you have our visionary friend here to set you straight?

[Minimalist]

its interesting that you need to swear to make yourself heard , there isnt a better word for your frustration? perhaps "oh no defeat to which i have no answer for"

I just don't have any patience left for silly fucks like you who come along waving holy horseshit and pretend its real....and it doesn't matter what the cover of the book says.  OT, NT or your crap, it's all bullshit designed to control people.

Surely you don't think you are the first to come along sprinkling allah dust on our carpet and insisting that your fucking "beliefs" be given "respect."

Fuck you, allah and your fucking pedo-prophet.  Go rape a 9 year old.

[JuliaL]

You're an amazing asshole....and typical of the breed.

its interesting that you need to swear to make yourself heard , there isnt a better word for your frustration? perhaps "oh no defeat to which i have no answer for"

a lot of what you believe in entirely based on misconception and ignorance

do you honestly think that 2 bilion people of the world including many Europeans and Americans who converted to Islam or where born Muslims, where interested in a paedophile and mass beheading?

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look how he is still changing the word!!

this is a miracle in itself , only truth can do this, change people like this

and as i said before, if you think this is possible to do , then why dont you do it

i challenge you, in 30 years change the face of the world if you can !!!

People have.  I'd rather not lower myself.

Joseph Smith
L.Ron Hubbard

"Only truth can do this??"   You have to be kidding.
Muhhammad (PBUHN, Peanut Butter Under His Nose) was no different.
More likely, he was a primitive warlord who had trouble making payroll so he invented some reasons to rape and pillage that moved his liabilities into future fiscal periods (i.e. post mortem.)  Die for me now...virgins later...trust me.

You may think your OP is convincing, clear and obvious.  
The fact that others find it silly should be a hint that such is not universally the case.

[Sheed1980]

just be careful what u pray for my friend. Allah hears and sees all and never forgets.

Dear Santa Allah! Please give me a**-cancer. The worst kind - the kind that hangs out of the rectum and bounces off the buttocks, alternately slapping them, as I walk. Until that happens - I'll keep believing that you don't exist, or are a weakling, cowardly god, that your unwashed prophets were frauds as well as c*ck-smokers and that people, who follow them are semi-retarded little b*tches, with no dignity or morals.  That is all.

Well - I'm waiting...

F*ck Mohammad (Prophet Buggering Underage Horses).

Allah's mercy be upon you cause BELIEVE ME ur gonna need it and definitely want it