What do you think of William Lane Craig?

[robvalue]

Yeah. And I have to ask myself, what end? Is he actually converting anyone who wasn't already immersed in the mythology? Also, he's just as likely to convert someone to Islam, since the "arguments" are exactly the same and he never goes beyond a deistic God.

If I was debating him, I'd cut him off at the pass. I'd say, "OK, fine. Let's say there is a being that created the universe. Why should anyone care? What's this got to do with an ancient story book?"

He'd probably say some shit about the self affirming Holy Spirit that lives in his pants, and I'd point out how stupid that is and how useless to anyone but himself. I'd tell him He-Man lives in my mind, so he's real too.

[veoli]

He thinks he has been touched by the holy spirit rob, so you're spot on. He's also said no amount of evidence will change his mind.

[robvalue]

Yeah, I remember him saying that.

That itself is a statement of total intellectual dishonesty, and shows he doesn't care about the truth.

No rational, true belief needs such coddling.

Actually, I could just say Allah does just the same thing to me, which is self affirming proof Islam is "true".

Your move WLC.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Cthulhu Dreaming

"WLC" actually stands for "Weird-Looking Charlatan".

I thought it was "Wanking Like Crazy"?

Wacky, Lying Cunt?

Edit - sorry about the quoting problem, it's my phone!

[Edwardo Piet]

Cthulhu Dreaming

"WLC" actually stands for "Weird-Looking Charlatan".

I thought it was "Wanking Like Crazy"?

Wacky, Lying Cunt?

Edit - sorry about the quoting problem, it's my phone!

Whatever Looks Corruptest

[robvalue]

Will Lie for Cash

[Edwardo Piet]

Wanders over to Lordy for some Cream

[Crossless2.0]

Getting back to the question of where WLC is tenured, I'd like someone to explain why a philosopher would work at an institution with such a faith statement in the first place.

My point is, there are 'philosophers' by virtue of the degrees earned (WLC certainly qualifies as one based on that standard), and there are philosophers by -- shall we say -- vocation. What self-respecting philosopher would submit to such a faith statement as a condition of employment unless they had already sold out any real spirit of what philosophy is or should be ahead of time?

WLC, by my lights, is a sophist in pretty much the sense that Socrates is said to have characterized them: professional masters of rhetoric who teach others how to make the worse cause appear the better.

[Nihilist Virus]

Is WLC the one who invented that "properly basic" garbage?

[Crossless2.0]

Is WLC the one who invented that "properly basic" garbage?

I think that was Plantinga originally.