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Near death experience of Howard Storm
RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(January 30, 2016 at 7:41 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: So the time has come for homo-sapiens to know who they are... I will continue give information in multiple posts.

Humans are a species of biological beings that have evolved over time, and will continue to evolve. Humans were created through evolution to be vessels for souls to inhabit which allows us to take on a physical form to experience a world which allows us to evolve. We have all chosen to come here for a chance to experience the world and grow spiritually. A veil of ignorance is put over us so we forget where we came from, in order to get the most out of this life as possible. We are actually souls using homo-sapiens to interact with others in the physical world.

The purpose of soul growth is to grow towards God. The simple solution is LOVE. Love is all it takes to grow, and the reason we came here. Life on earth is the perfect opportunity to experience in love. We have male and female beings that can unite in love, and create children through love that guarantees the ability of more souls to inhabit human bodies in the form of procreation. The children allow the souls of the parents to nurture and love, and learn through various experiences, which can't be done in the spiritual realm from where we came from and will go back into after our experience on earth.

God is the creator and regulator. Something to keep in mind is that birds of a feather flock together. Another thing to understand is kinetic energy. We are all energy, and each of us vibrates at a different level. For example heat and light vibrates very quickly, while cold and darkness vibrates very slowly, and there is everything in between. Love vibrates fast, and hate vibrates slow. While on earth, all vibrations can coexist but in the spiritual realm, we will gravitate to where we belong based on our vibration frequency. Outside the body, you will go to where you fit in based on your vibration, almost like tuning into a radio station. You can't tune into 94.1, and listen to 88.7, for example.

God is light and love, and if you don't have the same frequency to exist in harmonious balance, you will simply not be able to go there. The key thing is that your vibrational level can change based on your thoughts. Love will change your frequency to a higher level, while hate will change it to a lower level. Once outside the body, we enter back into the spiritual realm.

I'll go into more detail about the various spiritual realms in another post. For now, I want to mention the main message of life is to love. It's the most important thing to do while we are alive, and can not only change you for the better, but also change others based on your actions towards them, which can spread and make a better world. Hate can do the same thing.

If you only realized how backwards you got everything.... -.-'
Sadly, primitive man didn't write anything down, so I can't knock you out of your high air-horse with reports from way back when.

Just to keep a tally of how many things you have to assume without any evidence (in order of appearance):
- Souls
- We have all chosen to come here
- A veil of ignorance is put over us
- purpose of soul growth
- God
- God is the creator and regulator.
- in the spiritual realm, we will gravitate to where we belong
- God is light and love
- you will simply not be able to go there
- Love will change your frequency
- hate will change it to a lower level
- outside the body, we enter back into the spiritual realm
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
Quote:Humans are a species of biological beings that have evolved over time, and will continue to evolve. Humans were created through evolution to be vessels for souls to inhabit which allows us to take on a physical form to experience a world which allows us to evolve. We have all chosen to come here for a chance to experience the world and grow spiritually. A veil of ignorance is put over us so we forget where we came from, in order to get the most out of this life as possible. We are actually souls using homo-sapiens to interact with others in the physical world.

Why is H. sapiens unique in this respect? Every single groups of organisms that exist, have ever existed, or ever will exist on this planet have evolved through evolution. Bacteria are notorious for evolving, for example. Does a bacterium require a soul to 'interact with others in the physical world'? I've had a bacterial infection a time or two in my life, and they felt pretty soulless at the time.

Quote:The simple solution is LOVE. Love is all it takes to grow, and the reason we came here. Life on earth is the perfect opportunity to experience in love. We have male and female beings that can unite in love, and create children through love that guarantees the ability of more souls to inhabit human bodies in the form of procreation. The children allow the souls of the parents to nurture and love, and learn through various experiences, which can't be done in the spiritual realm from where we came from and will go back into after our experience on earth.

If indeed 'Love is all it takes to grow', I propose an experiment. Go to your local garden shop and purchase two houseplants (it really doesn't matter what kind). Lavish love on the first plant, but never fertilize or water it. For the second plant, do the opposite- try to gin up feelings of utter hatred and contempt for it, but make sure it gets the correct amounts of food/water/sunlight, do your best to keep it free of pests, disease and mechanical damage. Conduct the experiment for one month, and post pictures of your results here.

Quote:God is the creator and regulator. Something to keep in mind is that birds of a feather flock together. Another thing to understand is kinetic energy. We are all energy, and each of us vibrates at a different level. For example heat and light vibrates very quickly, while cold and darkness vibrates very slowly, and there is everything in between. Love vibrates fast, and hate vibrates slow. While on earth, all vibrations can coexist but in the spiritual realm, we will gravitate to where we belong based on our vibration frequency. Outside the body, you will go to where you fit in based on your vibration, almost like tuning into a radio station. You can't tune into 94.1, and listen to 88.7, for example.

God is light and love, and if you don't have the same frequency to exist in harmonious balance, you will simply not be able to go there. The key thing is that your vibrational level can change based on your thoughts. Love will change your frequency to a higher level, while hate will change it to a lower level. Once outside the body, we enter back into the spiritual realm.

So...God may be termed 'The Great Vibrator'? I'm actually OK with that.

Quote:I'll go into more detail about the various spiritual realms in another post. For now, I want to mention the main message of life is to love. It's the most important thing to do while we are alive, and can not only change you for the better, but also change others based on your actions towards them, which can spread and make a better world. Hate can do the same thing.

Ok, time more another hypothetical. Your best friend on the world, the person you most love, trust and respect, is kidnapped and horrifically tortured (devise the tortures in your own mind). At the end of it all, your friend is brutally killed and cannibalized, and his murderers send you a video of the entire proceedings. Would you 'love' these people? (If it helps, I can give you an exact, precise definition of love). I can understand you forgiving them (I wouldn't agree, but I'd understand), but to say that you 'love' these brutes in human form is to stretch the definition out of all recognizable shape.

Boru
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
I have a hypothesis about that.  I think that the scores of the faithful who have been told that atheists are "x"  (insert list of negatively taken attributes here) cannot square, in their own minds, that people who just don't believe actually -are- those things "x".  That -can't- be all there is to atheism because atheism is "bad"....and that just doesn't seem all that bad.  There isn't a human being on earth who isn't personally acquainted with skepticism and doubt about something.

So we get the constant angry atheist, the neverending stream of hard hearted atheists.  Atheism *plus...and it's always the plus they take issue with, never the atheism.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
That plant experiment you propose is designed to fail.

God's love comes from the sunlight he bestows upon the world.
They will both receive this unconditional love irrespective.

Some light photons carry this "love" quark at at subatomic level.
It is very small and as yet not detected by the LHC.
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(January 30, 2016 at 7:41 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:



I just remember I had the urge to warn you guys about this guy when he first showed up on the forums. But I had to be nice over there, you know. I swear I really did sniff him out. Fuck, I'm good. Smile
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(January 30, 2016 at 7:50 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:
(January 30, 2016 at 7:41 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: So the time has come for homo-sapiens to know who they are... I will continue give information in multiple posts.




The purpose of soul growth is to grow towards God.  


Good grief, what ridiculous word-salad woo.  Yep, Scooby and Little Rik need to team up.  
Scoob, first you have to prove to us that god exists.  Using scientific method.  Or better yet, have him show up and say "hi".  The creator of the universe shouldn't need a word-salad-smith to explain who and what he is.   When you prove it, we can go to point number 2, prove humans have a soul.  Then there is point number 3, prove there is an afterlife.

I don't believe in any of the three, but provide quantifiable, and testable evidence and then I'll listen.

Yeah I'd like to talk to Little Rik, always interesting to meet like minded people.

I don't think I have to do anything, but tell people what I've experienced. I would say I'm here to teach people that what they perceive may not actually be reality. Reality is something we don't know due to our limited senses and our brain trying to make sense and order out of our experience. Our eyes can only see a limited spectrum of light, our ears can hear a limited spectrum of sounds, and our nose can only smell a limited spectrum. Would you call a dog crazy because it can hear things you can't, or a bee crazy because it can see ultraviolet light that you can't?

Why would you expect God to say Hi? I would say that's an expectation that you demand of another, when the other has it's own free will. Or perhaps we think since we live in the present that we are advanced, but maybe compared to another that has existed longer, we are just primitive, to be left along to evolve without interference.

(January 30, 2016 at 8:46 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(January 30, 2016 at 7:41 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: So the time has come for homo-sapiens to know who they are... I will continue give information in multiple posts.

Humans are a species of biological beings that have evolved over time, and will continue to evolve. Humans were created through evolution to be vessels for souls to inhabit which allows us to take on a physical form to experience a world which allows us to evolve. We have all chosen to come here for a chance to experience the world and grow spiritually. A veil of ignorance is put over us so we forget where we came from, in order to get the most out of this life as possible. We are actually souls using homo-sapiens to interact with others in the physical world.

The purpose of soul growth is to grow towards God. The simple solution is LOVE. Love is all it takes to grow, and the reason we came here. Life on earth is the perfect opportunity to experience in love. We have male and female beings that can unite in love, and create children through love that guarantees the ability of more souls to inhabit human bodies in the form of procreation. The children allow the souls of the parents to nurture and love, and learn through various experiences, which can't be done in the spiritual realm from where we came from and will go back into after our experience on earth.

God is the creator and regulator. Something to keep in mind is that birds of a feather flock together. Another thing to understand is kinetic energy. We are all energy, and each of us vibrates at a different level. For example heat and light vibrates very quickly, while cold and darkness vibrates very slowly, and there is everything in between. Love vibrates fast, and hate vibrates slow. While on earth, all vibrations can coexist but in the spiritual realm, we will gravitate to where we belong based on our vibration frequency. Outside the body, you will go to where you fit in based on your vibration, almost like tuning into a radio station. You can't tune into 94.1, and listen to 88.7, for example.

God is light and love, and if you don't have the same frequency to exist in harmonious balance, you will simply not be able to go there. The key thing is that your vibrational level can change based on your thoughts. Love will change your frequency to a higher level, while hate will change it to a lower level. Once outside the body, we enter back into the spiritual realm.

I'll go into more detail about the various spiritual realms in another post. For now, I want to mention the main message of life is to love. It's the most important thing to do while we are alive, and can not only change you for the better, but also change others based on your actions towards them, which can spread and make a better world. Hate can do the same thing.

If you only realized how backwards you got everything.... -.-'
Sadly, primitive man didn't write anything down, so I can't knock you out of your high air-horse with reports from way back when.

Just to keep a tally of how many things you have to assume without any evidence (in order of appearance):
- Souls
- We have all chosen to come here
- A veil of ignorance is put over us
- purpose of soul growth
- God
- God is the creator and regulator.
- in the spiritual realm, we will gravitate to where we belong
- God is light and love
- you will simply not be able to go there
- Love will change your frequency
- hate will change it to a lower level
- outside the body, we enter back into the spiritual realm

To clarify all I've presented is information learned from reading near death experiences. I didn't provide links, but all the information can be found here if you have the time or desire to research further:  http://www.near-death.com/  

The best information can be found under the conclusion section. This is information that has come from people that have claimed to have died, left their body, went into the spiritual realm, and learned before told they had to come back. Another key thing with may NDEs is there is a point where they are told that if they go past this point, they can't go back into their bodies. So all of this information is not complete to the point that this is information that is brought back from a point, rather than seeing what's past the point of no return. I don't claim to know everything, and I would think anyone that does is a complete fool.

I'll be posting more about the spiritual realms soon...
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(January 30, 2016 at 9:18 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(January 30, 2016 at 7:50 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Good grief, what ridiculous word-salad woo.  Yep, Scooby and Little Rik need to team up.  
. . . . .

Yeah I'd like to talk to Little Rik, always interesting to meet like minded people.

Be careful what you wish for.....

http://atheistforums.org/thread-34809.html
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(January 30, 2016 at 11:51 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(January 30, 2016 at 9:18 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Yeah I'd like to talk to Little Rik, always interesting to meet like minded people.

Be careful what you wish for.....

http://atheistforums.org/thread-34809.html

Yeah the guys sentence structure is non-existent, and grammar is horrendous, almost making it painful to read. Not that I'm perfect but I used to have to read through and edit everyone's emails before they went out to customers at work. Reminds me of this Weird Al video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
(January 31, 2016 at 12:07 am)scoobysnack Wrote: Yeah the guys sentence structure is non-existent, and grammar is horrendous, almost making it painful to read.[...]

Also - he's bat-sh*t crazy... Big Grin
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RE: Near death experience of Howard Storm
So...

I get not worrying about whether people share your beliefs.

But if you don't care whether people consider your conclusions to be valid, based on your presented methodology, then that seems to me like you don't care about methodology. You're just interested in telling stories.
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